I have joined several "vaccine damage" groups on the Internet. this page is "posts" of letters from those groups.


A relative just found out that her baby born 2 years ago was given a HepB on the 2nd day of life, even though she had stated in her birth plan and told the nurses not to and gave no permission for it to be given. Does she have any recourse in terms of legal action if the hospital cannot produce their signed consent?
Thanks!
   she needs to talk to a lawyer
that's why you can never leave your baby alone with them



I have a little person in my office who had 10 rounds of antibiotics and 17 vaccines by 20 months of age. Yes, now autistic. That should be assault with deadly weapons and the doctor should be in jail. Instead, the parents were kicked out of their pediatrician's practice for refusing more vaccines and wanting to get their child well. With these annoying, non-compliant parents out of the way, that doctor can continue to do what vaccinators do: Inject toxic substances into children, ruining their health and the lives of the child's family members.



"Even after thimerosal was phased out of pediatric vaccines, autism rates did not fall."

Now why would they fall when thimerosal laden flu shots are being pushed on pregnant women and infants 6 months and up??? I even heard  of an instance where a PREEMIE was given a thimerosal containing flu shot, right along with her Hep B!!!!  Do they think we are stupid by not putting 2+2 together? They never targeted this group until rates began to fall in California where thimerosal was banned...then BOOM! The CDC came out with this  recommendation. They don't WANT these rate to fall..not yet, anyway. They want to wait until they can convince the American public that  they have finally found THE cause, and it will NOT be thimerosal. Then, and only then, will they will phase it out; little by little...  to make it look like thousands of parents were wrong! So leave the  pharmaceutical companies alone, people... after all, they have saved millions of lives and have harmed NO child in the process!  So, until they can find a safety net...a believable cause of autism...they will continue to assure that those numbers rise, in spite of the supposed removal of thimerosal from childhood vaccines. And we're supposed to trust them with our children's lives???? Sorry, but that just doesn't hold water with those of us whose children suffer!



My son received the Chickenpox Vaccine at 2 years old. Last year, he got a terrible case of shingles. They tell me it's probably due to the strain of the virus used in the vaccine which became dormant in him and erupted as shingles. The doctor said this is happening a lot now with kids who have received the Varivax. I wish I could go back in time, he wouldn't have gotten all these vaccines..


I would make a great parent spokesperson. My daughter was developing within normal ranges until she got a hep B shot while still scabbed over with chicken pox at nine months of age. Within two weeks she lost all appropriate babble, refused to breastfeed, stopped eating most foods, stopped pulling up, and pretty much wanted to lay flat on her back. Like an idiot I got her 12 mo MMR. Then the diarrhea started. For six months I went to our pediatrician complaining about a variety of symptoms that included: "zoning out", refusal to eat foods, not pulling up/walking after having done so prior to the shot, not babbling/trying to form words, afraid to be up high like a exam table, etc. Turns out they were all symptoms of autism but the doctor, XXXX XXXX, didn't give a crap. Two weeks before her second birthday, with little help from him, she was given a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.

Of course after making my baby sick by giving her the shot he was no help in trying to treat her. When I shared with him that we (speech path, OT, psychologist, myself, husband) felt she probably had autism his ignorant response was, "Well, I don't think that can be diagnosed until at least three." What ever. Thanks Ms. Pediatrician for that perfectly useless if not downright harmful opine.  However, because I wasn't willing to let his ignorance not help my daughter, I began researching. This was in 2000, before I had the benefit of a playboy model to help me learn what my child's doctor should have been helping me learn. I learned about the gluten-free, casein-free diet. Within five days of removing dairy she spoke. Within 2 months she had over 100 word vocabulary.

Fast forward 7 years. My daughter still has autism. But, she's 1000% better after the wonderful pediatrician gave her autism. She's in 2nd grade doing modified 2nd grade work. She cannot physically write well (thanks Dr. XXX but she can use a keyboard and writes wonderful creative stories about barnyard animals laughing and the colors of dinosaurs. Of course, that's in between her chelation to get out all the aluminum, lead, and mercury in her body. And, in between the chronic illnesses and hospitalizations she has. I'll be more than happy to participate as a parent spokesperson for the lovely abilities of the AAP to contribute to the autism pandemic.

Debi Haney
 

  I was at this presentation in San Diego. I went because it was entitled "M.I.N.D. Over Matter...Biomedical Approaches to Understanding and Treating Autism." I was sadly disappointed because there was not much, if any, mention of biomedical treatments. The presentation focused mostly on genetic testing. The doctor even questioned whether autism is an epidemic or just better awareness.

He talked alot about this research with monkeys, and he also talked about another research project with the monkeys where they removed the amygdalas of these monkeys to also produce autistic-like behaviors. He talked about having hundreds of monkeys at his disposal to do these studies on.

When it was time for Q&A, I was surprised that he called on me because I did make some funny faces to a lot of the comments he made, and I asked, "Do you have any plans to vaccinate these monkeys with the same vaccines that my son received with the same amounts of mercury, toxins, and live viruses to see if they get autism?" And I got the proverbial answer that they are choosing to focus more on genetics.....

Now that I've finally posted -- I've been a lurker for quite some time on this discussion group -- I should probably electronically introduce myself. I too have a sordid past whereby I ate healthy during my pregnancies, had natural childbirth, even turning down a Tylenol because I didn't want to contaminate my milk; I breastfed my children for 18 months, then made them organic baby food, always reading labels on anything I ate or gave to them, but I NEVER thought to read the ingredients of vaccines. When I questioned the doctors about vaccines, I was told my children can't go to school unless they receive them on schedule. And when I said I didn't want the chicken pox vaccine because it wasn't mandatory, the doctor came back with a picture of a quadriplegic girl in a wheelchair that the doctor said had to have her arms and legs amputated, because when she got chicken pox they became infected.

I have three boys. My oldest has some issues, but he dodged the autism bullet. My middle son has ASD. My youngest was born with clubfeet, and was on his way to getting autism when I finally got smart and stopped vaccinating him, put him on the diet with my middle son, and we got him back. He is now just fine.
 



Jackie, I went to the CDC website & read about each disease, the rates of infection, and where they happen. For example, my town in the Southeast had few reports of pertussis. I also considered the context of contraction. I was a stay-at-homer who didn't take her out much because when it came down to it I decided that no immunizations were best. She has two older sisters who were in school. 

There is evidence the pertussis vaccine is ineffective. In fact, the CDC itself admits their vaccine may only be 60% effective. IT may be less than that when you read through the link below and see that a lot of kids with pertussis don't show a positive culture but still have it; if they don't have a positive culture, unless it's linked to someone who does have a positive culture, it won't be reported as pertussis, which further skews the true statistics.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/publications/pertussis/chapter1.pdf

I personally have struggled with polio. It's my understanding some of the Amish developed polio from immigrants overseas who were given the oral polio and came here and spread it because the oral is a live virus. In my kids' school we have a high level of immigrants, including places like Liberia. I have thought about these kids getting the oral one day, hopping an overnight flight and being in our school,using the same toilets as my girls the next. That said, I felt like
after prayer and considering the very low risk of that actually happening compared to the risk of complications because of our history, it just wasn't worth it. My grandfather died of a mysterious brain tumor in his early 60's, the most deadly form. My grandmother has also had lymphoma. I have wondered if my family is susceptible to SV-40 and there have been some cases of newly-infected SV-40 children.

As far as HIB, according to CDC again, the risk of complicated Hib infection is 1.3/100,000 in USA.

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/haeminfluserob_t.htm

One thing you can do is ask yourself, how many people in your area do you know who have had Hib? It's a bacteria that can be a carrier state in many of us. It's typically a secondary infection. There's also a question of how effective the vaccine truly is. It sounds as if it's not as effective as FDA would have us think:

http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HIB.htm
In 1995, out of 74 Hib disease cases where age and vaccination status were known, 41 or 55 percent had received at least one Hib shot; 22 were appropriately vaccinated for their age; and 18 had completed the primary series. Personally, I don't consider an 18% failure rate to be good enough to justify, but that's my personal feeling. You may feel differently and that's all right. What I would suggest to you is that you research all you can and pray about it, that's what I did.

BTW, my youngest, 4 1/2 is completely unimmunized. She did get pertussis at age 3. It was about like bronchitis, NOTHING like the horror stories we hear. It lasted about 6 wks, she was fine unless she got worked up on the playground, then she'd have a spasm. I did hate seeing her have the episodes, but it was no where *near* thinking she was going to die, cough up blood, etc. The hardest part about it was *getting* them to test her. They still wouldn't dx by older daughter with identical symptoms because she'd been immunized, they refused to concede it might be possible, even when I presented them (school nurse
& county health nurse) with CDC data. I hope this helps. I know it isn't easy, but you're doing far better than the majority of parents. You're taking the issue seriously and trying to do what's best for your child.

Debi
 



Had I only known...A letter to The View

More than anything, what upsets me today about The View is that it's supposed to be a show that represents different VIEWS! Silly me...I thought they could actually discuss the different VIEWS about what causes autism. Like others here, I'm quite familiar with the VIEW from inside the world of Autism, and I really don't need to VIEW any more. Furthermore, in my letter to Elisabeth, I tried to emphasize that they need to treat parents as intelligent, thoughtful people who, when presented with the facts about Autism, will best be able to make a decision appropriate for their child. Censoring and/or editing uncomfortable and controversial material is inexcusable when it comes to the embetterment of our children.

What I would have given to at least had someone just present both VIEWS of the vaccine story prior to my daughter's birth so I could have made up my own mind...how different my life and my daughter's may have been.

Julie
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Dear Elisabeth,

Thank you for being a part of an important show today that highlighted the prevelance of Autism in our society; what impact it has on families lives; and supportive therapies that have been helpful in recovering some children. I must admit, however, that I was extremely disappointed that The View did not explore the other highly successful interventions being used to address the medical problems Autistic children have. Often, as is being proven in thousands of children everyday, treating said issues vastly improves and sometimes reverses the disorder in its entirety.

I am fortunate enough to have a child in which said therapies did in fact reverse such problems. Today, two years after beginning treatements, my little girl is a mainstreamed kindergartener. She will live a productive, independent life as a result. Two years ago I did not know if she would ever speak in full sentences and have to live with us for the rest of her life. The most successful treatment used in recovering my daughter from "Autism" was chelation therapy, a process used to treat heavy metal toxicity. Indeed, testing confirmed she was mercury toxic.

Not surprisingly, this was a shocking discovery to her father and I.

As a result of her testing and subsequent recovery, it is my deepest belief that my daughter was poisoned by mercury in her vaccines. I fear that because of the source of her exposure to mercury, shows such as The View and others are afraid to open the important discussion as to whether or not vaccines, and/or their components, do cause "Autism" as I and thousands of others believe. Frankly, our children's health is too important a discussion to censor and/or edit because it is controversial or uncomfortable. I implore you to investigate and present both sides of this story.

It is excruciatingly painful to have watched my beautiful daughter slip into the world of "Autism" and have suffered for 3 years before knowing how to properly intervene on her behalf. There is so very, very much I wish I would have known, that I could have known, if a show like yours would have just presented the facts. Had I known there was mercury in vaccines and that each and every symptom of what was wrong with her was a LISTED side effect of the very substance that was injected into her at her most vulnerable time of development, she might not have suffered for so long. Logic would have dictated that at a minimum it was worth investigating. Had I known that 10-15% of people don't excrete mercury effectively, I could have asked for screening to see if she was one of them before injecting her with it. Had I known giving Tylenol to someone who is exposed to mercury prohibits their excretion if it, I wouldn't have given it to her before and after her shots. Had I known antibiotics have the same effect, I would have rescheduled her vaccinations while she was on them.

Had I known the AAP had said prior to her conception that mercury was toxic in all of its forms and needed to be avoided at all costs, except through a vaccine where they claimed it was a "hypothetical" risk, I would have erred on the side of caution and asked for ones without it. Too bad I missed their news conference making such a statement at 4:15 on a Friday in July two years earlier.

Had I known said mercury had never been tested for safety, and that the FDA and CDC had forgotten to tabulate the cummulative amount a child could be exposed to via vaccine, I would have thrown my body in front of traffic before laying down my child to be injected with it.

Had I known they did a study in 2000 that showed a statistically significant correlation between mercury exposure and Autism, ADHD, and speech delay, I could have demanded an alternative.

Had I known someone put a secret "Eli Lilly" Rider into the Homeland Security Act protecting the maker of said mercury preservative from all liabilty (said Rider was removed before passage), I would have questioned what in God's name could deserve such protection and done some homework.

Had I known, Elisabeth. Had I known.

But I didn't know.

Why?

Because show's like yours didn't tell me.

Because no one wanted to talk about it then, and no one wants to talk about it now.

Which is really too bad.

I'm not asking you to use your show to say vaccines cause Autism. I'm asking you to open the discussion and present the facts that indeed they very well might.

I'm asking you to trust parents to be smart enough to make an informed decision.

That's all I wish I would have had...an informed decision...the facts.

But I didn't. And as a result, my daughter suffered severely.

Had I only known...

Sincerely,
Julie Obradovic

Julie, Wonderful letter indeed, I think your letter hits the hearts of every parent whose child's life was harmed by the injection the insidious neuro-toxin, mercury...

Had we only known...

EVERYTHING would have been DIFFERENT...

Soldier On...

Leslie,
Mother to beautiful Lanier, almost 9 and has yet to utter her first word... Had I only known...


I do billing for an MD and can't tell you how many times a baby/young child comes in for well check and the next in a series of something like 16 vaccinations they have to have these days and then in one - two days the same child is back with cold, flu, fever, abdominal pain, ear infections.... etc...  you'd think SOMEONE would see a connection! 

  Which state are you in? Check out the bookmarks on the list website and you should be able to find the specifics for your state laws. You were lied to about getting the vaxes before leaving the hospital. The schedule is a suggestion, there is no law that I've heard of that says anyone has to vax at birth if they are going to vax. If you didn't sign a consent form, they legally can't vax the baby. Same with the doc. If that was my doc, he never would've gotten my child out of the room without me. And if he vaxed my  child without a consent form, he would be up on charges. That is illegal. Period.

It's harder to selectively vax than to just not vax. I know someone who did do that because she wanted to avoid the ones that are cultured on aborted fetal tissue. she's catholic, and wanted nothing to do with anything that included abortion) But it was harder for  her to do that than it would have been to just say no vaxes for religious reasons. Are you still in California? they allow a  philosophical objection  exemption. You fill out the form and keep a copy for yourself, and one in your Childs medical file. Religious exemptions are easier, and when people find out the stuff in vaxes, it's not that hard to come up with a way to justify not vaxing with religious reasons. Not that you have to explain those reasons other than "religious". It's unconstitutional for anyone to ask you to explain those beliefs. Knowing your rights is what is key. You have to know the specifics of the laws in your state.  People who are supposed to know what the laws are will bully you, and out and out lie to you about what you "have to" do. I had a doc try to scare me into the Hep B and chicken pox vax along with a couple of others when my daughter was 6 weeks old. He lied to me, and I called him on it. I asked him if he had even bothered to read  the insert on the vax package. He got quite irritated at me and informed me that he HAD been to medical school. But he never answered my question. I told him it boiled down to one thing. If she had a reaction, I would be the one having to deal with it. If she got autism, or other illnesses because of vaccine damage, it would be me taking care of her, not him, and I wasn't willing to take that risk with her health. That the vaxes he was pushing were far more scary to me than the diseases they supposedly protect people from. And that the chances of a reaction were more likely than the child getting the disease. Then he started talking about "crack pot websites" I asked him what he thought of the CDC and World Health Organization websites. very provax) That that was where I got my numbers for the numbers of people who get and die from the diseases he was wanting to vax my child against. I compared that to the numbers on the vax inserts and stuff I found at the Vaers website. But if you look it up and do the research, you will probably figure out that almost all the vaxes are scarier than the diseases. I have also decided to avoid docs for all of us unless we are sick. We don't do well baby/child visits, less hassle that way.



Yes, I have heard about the mercury and the possible cause of autism. Let me tell you what else I have experienced.   My first nephew was born prematurely.  He had surgery to "close up" his esophagus.  After 6 months of his building strength and recovering from surgery, the pediatrician gave him his DPT shot.  He died the next day, doctors diagnosing it as "Sudden Infant Death Syndrome". Years later, another of my sister-in-laws had a child.  The baby was 3months old when he, too, died of guess what?  "Sudden Infant Death".  The DPT shot was given the day before. The sad thing is, it wasn't until much later that we all realized that the vaccine and the deaths were related.

Before that sad discovery, I had a second child that I had just brought to have his second round of DPT.  Hours later he had a horrible reaction.  The pediatrician said to never give him the "P" (pertussin) part again.  He is now almost 18 years old.  He has had spinal meningitis, severe allergies, ADHD, probable bipolar disorder, and chronic pain and disability with a knee condition called osteonecrosis.   I put some of the blame on that shot and the side effects of the shot.  Many medical professionals may deny this. One other example - I am a psychotherapist and work with mainly adults, but the adolescents that I have seen, that come in for oppositional defiance, severe ADHD, learning disabilities, etc. have all reported by one of their parents as having a severe reaction to a vaccination as a young child. (I ask).  I am also aware of a local physician in town, renown for her studies in biochemical reactions with vaccinations, who indicates a direct correlation between autistic children and immunizations. So to answer your question, that is what I have experienced with immunizations.  I am SCARED to death of all of them. And I think, rightly so.
BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!! 



Hi all
    Actually, many people in medicine see a connection between vaccinations and fevers, etc.  Problem is, they see these reactions as "normal" side effects of poking needles full of (fill in the blank with your favorite 4-letters) into children.  Some will tell you it's a sign the vaccine is "doing its job" and "building the body's resistance"     Of course, the preponderance of allergies, asthma, etc in these "well cared for" children has nothing at all to do with vaccines.  No way.   Yeah, right



You would think so.  Friends of ours had a baby who began having seizures after his first vaccs.  He nearly died and had to be on so many meds that he had to stay in hospital for weeks.  The seizures continued for many weeks. They tested him for everything and the diagnosis was finally "unknown etiology" or some such phrase.   And this was a major teaching hospital in Texas, not a tiny, backward place.

The baby is now over a year and doing ok but his parents and the doctors are still sure that there was no explanation whatsoever for the seizures, but I'd bet quite a lot of money that they were from the vaccs.  Not everyone can think outside the box, no matter how much you attempt to get them to try.  It's terribly frustrating and sad to see this type of thing.



Had I read such a publication, had such articles been available to me, I would not now be severely disabled from the work related vaccine I received. I had the hepatitis B vaccine to ensure my income earning potential and health was maintained and achieved. Instead I live in abject poverty, because of a crippling autoimmune polyarthritis which occured within 14 days of vaccination with Engerix B.

My once promising nursing career and independence in tatters. Sadly, for some of us health professionals, it's not until the spectre of vaccine injury impacts directly, that our perspectives on vaccination are modified. Hence the groups of vaccine injured health professionals and their class-action law suits.

I am also in email contact with 41 other vaccine injured health professionals.  Many of these colleagues  (nurses, doctors, physios, OT's, social workers, dietitions, MPH's etc) were senior in their careers, one a former vaccine researcher who worked in his sister's lab. Each severely disabled victim is similarly injured by hepatitis B vaccine.

Never, never, EVER again.



We believe that our daughter was "injured" by the HepB vaccinations she received in the hospital and at her 2 month check-up.  And she died a couple weeks later.  The coroner's report listed nothing "extraordinary" and named the cause of death as SIDS.  But we would like to find out what we can do to investigate whether it really as the HepB vaccinations. 



Man ya know I didn’t realize it until I read your post I guess I still am grieving...sort of....again!   I know I went through this when xxxxxx first started seizing, and I guess its back again now with this physical debilities.     I guess I just need to let the grief out and get through this process again. xxxxxx will never be the wonderful little normal guy he was before his immunizations, or even the guy he was prior to surgery!  I guess I need to accept that, and adjust to this "new kid"...huh.    I still think that years and years ago different things should have been done, and maybe this total paralysis on his side could have been avoided!  I mean...xxxxx was perfect and normal at 5...now look at what medical science has done to him.... sorry didn’t mean to ramble.    It was those damn immunizations that did this to him!!!



When the doc's (including Freeman, which is why I hate him so) said to go ahead with the vaccines, despite her seizure disorder, I did. The reaction to Hep B was immediate. Then, finally, my eyes were opened (although it took 2 doses of the poison). At that point, I went  back and reviewed all her medical records and it all fit...the original encephalitis was 28 days after her DPT and Hib B boosters. Too much time to even consider suing, but its there all the same. now I tell everyone I can. some refuse to listen and I just hold my breath when its people close to me, but thankfully, some DO listen, and more people are starting to take notice when I tell them that Hannah's condition is a result of vaccines. Barb and I gave the cab driver in Florida an earful when we learned he was a new grandpa. While we were still in the van he called up his daughter for us to talk to her...saved that one at least!



I know what you mean  when you said they don't know what caused the problems, but they are very certain at what didn't!  Our pediatrician adamantly denies that the vaccine had anything to do with xxxxxxx's events.  Of course, he is the one who gave the order for the vaccine and signed off on it.  I do believe that he is more worried about the repercussion of admitting that the vaccine hurt my child than he is worried about what will happen if we give more.  I have refused all vaccines for xxxxxx at this point. He will receive no more.  If they gave a drug and a reaction occurred within 4 hours, they would admit that it ws a reaction to the drug and they would stop that drug or change it (like for seizures).  But a vaccine is injected into the the body and they can't take it back. I guess that is the difference.  It is very sad though.



Wait just a minute, the DOH have failed to say that whilst (they say)  Menengitis C. decreases, Menengitis B has increased! They have forgotten to say THAT VACCINE VIRUSES MUTATE-it is proven science- hence C can become B etc; they have not admitted the thousands of reported reactions to this "New Wonder vaccine!!!!" In my neighbourhood we've had two teenagers(probably a lot more) die of Men B post Men C vaccination, one crippled with Rh. Arthritis............ What else do they hide?



Here's another story questioning the MMR vaccine! Just recently whilst visiting our local pool, I striked a conversation with a mother of a 13 month old boy. She initiated the topic re: Vaccination by describing her son¹s reaction to the MMR vaccine! After having been administered the MMR vaccine, he had a high temperature, after which they gave him antiobiotics. This in turn, actually lead him to contracting measles itself and also a fungal (yeast) infection resulted in his genitals as well as a heat rash. The mother now is giving Zinc cream (good ol¹ petrochemical based product) for the heat rash. Having been through this episode, the mother said she seemed to question the MMR vaccine, but nevertheless, is still proceeding with the vaccination schedule for her boy.  Now this mother has also worked with children with disabilties (owing to vaccinations), yet I could feel she was denying her instincts about the effects the MMR had on her little boy, yet she is still going ahead with vaccinating him. I had to bite my tongue.I gave her my speel, about how vaccination actually hampers the immune system and has unknown side effects (without getting on my soapbox about it!) and suggested she contacts the AVN to get more info. Earlier on in the conversation she asked me if we have vaccinated our son (18 months old) and we swiftly replied 'No' to which she replied, 'Oh, are you getting him homeopathically treated then??, to which we replied yes. So there you go - she is aware of alternative modalities!! What can you do??



  After receiving an MMR vaccine our daughter developed celiac.....positive blood work but negative biopsy.  She definitely does better with GFCF diet.  She was able to eat anything before receiving the MMR shot.  I read somewhere the vaccine causes celiac by provoking an autoimmune reaction in the body.  Anyway, I am going to check out the book and am glad you are making progress.  Thanks for your great review!



I live in Tennessess, and just received notification that my sixth grade son has to have the Hep B vaccine. Since I have researched this vaccine, I am afraid for him.  After having taken the vaccine myself, I developed a severe case of rhuematoid arthritis. For the past three years I have been living with the consequences of this vaccine.  It is most important that I receive the necessary papers to prevent possible damage to my son.



I get asked all the time if my kids vaccs are up to date.....I just say yes.....cause to me, they're as up to date as they're ever going to get :).  Course, my kids are a little older, so it's easier, because we don't have all the stupid newborn ones.

BTW, it was a vaccine that caused my son's diabetes.....and he's now under homeopathic care.....receiving a remedy to try to undo the damage from his DPT



It's so sad that your sister had to learn from her experience, and not yours.  I didn't realize the enormity of the dangers of vaccines until after my older son had received all his toddler shots and begun showing chronic problems that could be due to them.  My younger son is completely unvaccinated and will stay that way. I certainly feel like I could preach it from the mountains but I know people just aren't receptive.  I try anyway.  If they hear it from enough people they'll start to give it some thought.



I am, Pierre Petit, the father of Marvin R. Petit DOB 2/17/2000. On 4/2/2000, he started having shortness of breath. He was rushed to the nearest hospital, then to a specialized one on children. There, Marvin entered in a coma which he never recovered from. He was pronounced dead on 5/3/2000.  My wife is being accused of shaking him to death. The mater is being debated in family court over the custody of our one year old son, Samuel, who were taken away from us at only two weeks old.

A family friend alerted me about the possibility that the vaccines could have been the cause. I went on check on a Hep B shot Marvin received 9 days earlier, on 3/24/2000, before started having shortness of breath. When I called the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, I learned that it was a hot lot (ENG3204A2). 9 people had already reported adverse reaction to it.  We need your help badly. On 3/18/2002, if I cannot come up with $20,000, for hiring Lawyers and Medical experts to get my wife out of this tragedy, we will lose our son and she can probably face criminal charges for a crime she did not commit.
Here the Story:  Before vaccination he smiles, plays. The warning was only fever.
He was administered Hep. B (ENG3204A2)
He was vaccinated on 2/17/2000 and 3/24/2000.
The very first day after the vaccination (3/24/2000) he gave a high pitched scream which was out of the ordinary, yeast infection on 3/30/2000, and shortness of breath on 4/2/2000.  The change was the high pitched cream (3/24/2000), and shortness of breath (4/2/2000), no chances of recovery. Tremendous emotional, psychological, and financial changes.
E-mail@: Pipetit@aol.com, Daytime Phone # (954) 760-9878
Thank you.



How very sad. I mean imagine what a nightmare it must be to lose a kid to a vaccine reaction and then be charged with murder, and lose your other kid to the state who is pumping them up with vaccines too). We all know how common denial of reactions occur. Yes, I know some people do abuse their kids. but some also die after vaccines like this boy might have. His health/behavior patterns after the shot echo the stories other parents have told, though  of course not all of those kids died. I can't help them financially, but I did send words of support. Sara in Ohio ps. it is things like this that also make me question vaccination. Having faced the denial by the medical community over my own hepB vaccine injury I have little doubt the same would occur should my child experience the same.



had a phone call today from someone who has a relation who's 16 year old son has developed paralysis since the meningitis vaccine. he has been in hospital ,they do not know why he is paralyzed believe he is being discharged soon. The family are frantic. Does anyone know of similar incidences. they are not my patients, only rang me because of involvement with an informed parent group.i told them about this list so if anyone has info they may pick up on it.i also told them about Jabs and Van uk and gave them the adress of the Informed Parent in UK. Yesterday the health authority started advertising Men.c. for the 18 year olds, and of course the babies too.



I can be nice, but just up to a limit.............. I have a low threshold with the medical profession (yourself excluded because you are 'one of us')!  I have a below zero opinion of them, and the very sight of them, all but a handful, make my blood boil.I didn't see the doc wash his hands.  A team of docs were gloating around the crash bed like wasps around a jar of honey by the time we got there.  The emergency service ambulance put in a call as we were travelling to the hospital, so they could expect us and prepare themselves for the mother from hell!  This is sad but true.  We have an extremely bad reputation which gets passed quickly to the new staff, because we are not 'yes' parents, and we want xxxxxx to be treated in a considerate and correct way.  We complain when she is given out of date drugs, and when they attempt to give her the wrong drugs, and when they make all the mistakes they make on a regular basis, each time we are in.  Because we care...................  They do not.  All they care about is their fat salary cheques at the end of the month, and about the incentives they receive from the drug companies they deal with.  Why have a child drug free and healthy when you have have them drugged up to the eyeballs and sip your champagne from a bar in the Swiss Alps with your entire family - all courtesy of depakote or one of the other drug companies? 

Their greed devours every inch of compassion or guilt they might have felt in treating their patients in the opposite way as they would their own child.   Their ignorance and dislike of the Keto diet flows through their every vein, and they make no secret of hiding that fact.  In turn we remain positive and patient when we explain that Daisy's 'wonderdrug' is called the Ketogenic Diet! Amen!



My daughter got an MMR shot 4 years ago and developed G.I. problems, vision problems, spinal problems.  At first she was diagnosed with celiac disease, but a biopsy came back negative.  Her symptoms sound more like IBD than celiac....we are having her seen for a reevaluation next month.  The strange thing is, for awhile she began to regress(autism did cross my mind at that point) but then seemed to level off and make a comeback.  But my husband and I both agree she is not the same child as she was prior to the shot. 



My parents have some friends who have just had a grandchild of theirs become unresponsive while at the babysitters. The child was taking a nap and did not respond to in attempts to be woken up. The child is living but now has brain damage.  They removed a cup of blood from his little brain. The babysitter and parents are under investigation for shakin baby syndrome, but I found it interesting that he had some vaccines the day before. Could the vaccines have had an impact?  I believe so.  Does anyone know of any other stories or information that I can pass along. The doctor has already counted out that the vaccines could of done anything. I personally disagree with him. Again, does anyone know where I can get some more information to help this family.



How old is this baby ?Our daughter who was 4 1/2 months at the time and just had HIB,HEP B,POLIO IPV,DTaP. She was damaged from this series it has taken doctors 4 years to admit this .Do you think chemicals that are in vaccines can make brain damage on the inside as well as the outside, well it can .If your friends know that it was Vaccines in there heart of hearts then lets find you an attorney ASAP.I personally would think so because of Vaccines be innoculated the day before and that fits the guidelines for brain damage which causes seizures. Have an EEG done to see if there are seizures and keep in mind that a doctor will never admit vaccine damage unless they are a neurologist and that takes a lot of probing .I know this because I experienced this .Having a normal chlid and then bam shots,they will not lift there head anymore and there eyes change. Usually majority of parents I have talked to leave there child with a care taker and they do not realize the fever and bam brain damage ,it happens so quickly it usually is to late .Do you know how many times Shaken baby syndrome is blamed ,GET AN ATTORNEY AND NOW! My heart pours out to your friends and if you need anymore help let me know.



my son was and is still selectively mute.  Now, due to the MMR vaccine at age 12, he is autistic, also. 



All I can share is that xxxxxx was normal (I KNOW HE WAS-BEEN TOLD DIFFERENT) up to 14 months and after his MMR-he started seizing non stop and lost everything............but I could carry him out to the sandbox and watch him play in the sand.  He would spend hours their and I would dream of better days.  But for me-they have arrived.  I still haven't gotten exasperated with his behavior (which I should)  I turn away and smile and my heart fills with joy and my eyes with tears.



My son was developed arthritis in his left knee 10 days after his MMR. It was me that informed the pediatrician that it was from the vaccine, even though it is written as a side effect in the MIMS. Since then I have mentioned it to several of my friends and 2 of them said there children also couldn’t walk for a few days, a couple of weeks after their vaccination. I urged them to report the incidence yet 3 years later they still haven't. A patient of mine (I am a herbalist), brought her daughter in with chronic ear infections. They started after her MMR. The mother had no idea that the could have been vaccine induced. My cousin rang the other day to say she couldn't come for dinner because her daughter had received her shots and was crying hysterically (her baby very rarely cries). I told her this was a reaction to the vaccination and she should report it - she was unaware that she should do this. Unreported reactions are not the only thing we are concerned about - sometimes people don't recognize their children are having a reaction to the vaccines at all.



It is becoming more and more obvious that my symptoms are very similar to those of MS.  From testing I have been diagnosed with the following plus more.  I have partially paralyzed cilliary muscles in my eyes causing focus problems.  My nerve response is abnormal.  I have pain in almost every partof my body including my stomach muscles.  I have a particularly great amount of pain in my legs and feet.  Of course my HMO is refusing to approve the treatment that Dr Campbell prescribed.  I have filed a complaint with the Insurance Commision for that reason.  Since the symptoms started within a day of my getting the Hepatax B vaccine in the Navy I have taken the matter up with the VA but the VA is next to useless in helping diagnose veteran's illness because they do not want to pay disability payments.



I met my friend on the street and saw her 14 month old baby.. It was a pity to look at her. she was so frail. She is only 10 pounds! looks like a skeleton. She had a feeder that went from a machine into her nose, and I know it goes all the way into her tummy. Her mother nurses the baby, but she seems not absorbing the vitamins, and she doesn't gain weight. The mother told me the baby was fine, until age 4 months. I asked the mother, did she get vaccinated in the age 4 months? yes she was... in birth, she got Hep B shot. In 2 month well check up, she got 4 shots: Hep B, HIB, DTP, IPV then in age 4 months other 4 shots: Hep B, HIB, DTP, IPV. she got a fever and high pitched crying. Afterwards she stopped gaining weight become sooooo weak.. it sucks!! the mother still didn't realize it was from it, so she brought the baby in age 8 months for the other series of the scheduled shots. I told the mother to keep in touch with me, and I will refer her to the homeopath. and in heaven's sake, STOP vaccinating!!! and she needs to get strong, make her immune system strong, because this weak baby can't even handle a simple cold and she is in a big risk! anyway, what shall she do? can a homeopath help? what about chelating? who can help her? can a homeopath help about everything, or she needs additional professional? thanks!!

I have to assume from the post that the doctor was advised of the reactions after the 2nd set of vaccinations.  The baby had health issues then.  They came in for the 3rd set of vaccinations, if I remember right, this is when the baby failed to gain weight.  The baby wasn't healthy; therefore the vaccinations were given to an unhealthy baby.  If so, they were given against the manufacturers recommendation of only giving to health.  This means they were given off label and if so the doctor is liable for his actions.  CERTAINLY I agree. Just didn't know the term 'off label'. I agree they weren't healthy but now the CDC says don't worry be happy - vaccinate even when sick. I got this from something Dr. Stephen Tobin posted who is a vet homeopath in onnecticut.  If a vaccine is given to an unhealthy it is given off label which means the doctor/vet is liable because they didn't follow manufacturer guidelines- this was in connection with giving rabies vaccines to an unhealthy dog.  But to me what difference does it make, unhealthy dog, unhealthy baby!!!!!



Look into chelation as soon as possible, there are many avenues open to you.  I have used homeopathy on my son who was diagnosed as ADD (which is bull#$%^#%), he was mercury toxic. I find it interesting that your nephew developed these problems at eighteen months of age. That's around the age when most children have their childhood vaccination boosters. That was the case with my daughter, after which she developed acute cerebellar ataxia syndrome; which is, by the way, a description of symptoms, not a diagnosis. My daughter's pediatrician, all those years ago, put forth the same 'diagnosis' after observing her sudden onset of balance, gait, and related symptoms. It wound up that the problem, the core issue, was that she had developed encephalitis after the administration of a live virus measles vaccination, and the ataxia was one of the after effects of that. In extreme cases, the immune system is severely damaged by mercury. Yeast is a given constant in our digestive systems. Under normal circumstances, the body, namely our immune system, can keep the levels in check. When the immune system doesn’t function properly the yeast takes over. Yeast overgrowth is a common occurrence in Autistic children.



I sincerely wish you the very best on avoiding the vaccine and all problems associated with it. I had no idea prior to my trouble with the vaccine that vaccines had any problems associated with them! But now after extensive research on them I can see vaccines harmed my oldest child...he had/has ADHD, and his son also has the same problem no doubt due to vaccines as well. My second son is allergic to zinc, also a vaccine problem, and my youngest daughter had a bad reaction to her first DPT shot, and thankfully her pediatrician listened to me and didn't give her the following doses of the Pertussis vaccine, but if I were doing it over again now knowing what I now know, none of my kids would have been vaccinated!!!!



I can't say as I blame you one little bit that you have avoided the hepB vaccination for your kids. And I think that is an admirable way to do it with home births. Not so sure others would agree, but since my bad reaction to the hep B vaccine, my views have taken a total turn around from what they were prior to the vaccine. I had the vaccine in 92 when I was a CNA. It was 'highly recommended', and I had never heard of vaccines being problematic, so had it. Immediately after the third dose, when I tried to take a hot shower (which I had done for years when it began to get cold, with never a strange reaction such as the one I had this time) I began to feel immediately as though I was going to pass out. Things went black and began to sparkle and I had to quick exit the shower. I sat on the closed toilet till I could see again, then got back in the shower but cooled it down this time and took a shower with no further problems. I began to have bowel and bladder problems as well, but totally ignored them, and passed them off as normal. 4 years later in 96, I began to have dizzy spells frequently which finally culminated with my being diagnosed in 97 with MS at the grand ol' age of 44!  It didn't finally occur to me that the hep B vaccine was involved until 98 when we finally got internet access, and on a fluke I happened to look up MS in search and the first thing that came up was the hep B vaccine. Then suddenly everything made perfect sense and finally fell into place. See, I was one who NEVER got sick. I got the flu maybe once in 7 or 8 years, and it laid me up for a week, then I was back to my normal self. I never even got a cold, and I worked in a nursing home, none the less! But it seems I caught a virus and entered perimenopause at the same time and that finally bought about the MS, which had been there since I had the vaccine...thus the initial strange symptoms where hot water almost caused me to pass out! It took me quite a while to put all this together because I was in such shock after I was diagnosed with MS. Plus the realization that the vaccine had brought all this about made my acceptance even harder.  But that is my story in a nutshell. Hope it helps. If there is anything more I can tell you, let me know. My daughter is also pregnant and looking at a breech birth. Of course she avoids the vaccine as well because of what it did to her mother, and well she should! Good luck!!!!!



Don't mean to sound like a wacky "anti-vaccine" person-- but experience has really pushed me there.  Many ofour kids have a compromised immune system and other gut issues that make them less able to throw off the toxic effects of the meds.  We faced a similar situation to you when XXXXX entered a new Montessori school.  She was "required" (or at the time that'swhat I thought) to have the Hepatitis A vaccine.  I did do research but everyone told me it was fine.  I didn't want to make waves in a new school and, as I told my husband, I just didn't think I could "gothere" (in terms of not vaccinating my kids).  We did the shot and two weeks later, after only having two viral-related seizures ever, Anna began having almost constant complex partial seizures.  Was it the vaccine?  We'll probably never know, but I'll kick myself forever.  I'd hate to see you relating a similar story a few years down the road.



I had to be so strong as a young mom with a vaccine injured son.  While living in Foster City, California, I was very involved with their Mother's Club.  I was naive back then and brought up the subject of vaccines.  One mom in particular really slammed me for not continuing to vaccinate my son, in spite of the fact he'd had so many reactions.  After awhile, when I tried to join a few other playgroups, my reception into these groups was very lukewarm.  I just couldn't figure it out.  THEN it hit me like a ton of bricks, several years later.  I'll bet ANYTHING it had to do with the vaccination issues.

Some people just cave in to peer pressure.  I was just told by the mom my group helped out that someone she knew, who did not vaccinate, couldn't get her daughter into a playgroup unless she vaccinated.  So....guess what...she vaccinated her daughter...she was that desperate.

I try not to judge, really, I've always said healthcare issues are extremely personal, and that goes for vaccinating, as well.

But as more and more lawsuits are filed on behalf of parents and their vaccine injured children, the truth WILL come out.  This is like a slow volcano ready to erupt, it's only a matter of time, but I can foresee down the road where the vaccine issues just implode into the mainstream and when they do, look out!



 I know waaaaaayyy too many people who have children that do not function normally. When I asked one neighbor what happened to her 26 yr old daughter to make her soo different from her twin sister, she replied that she didn't know for sure--it was after kindergarten shots, she was 5, was on a swing in the backyard with all the other neighbor kids & siblings, and she just fell off of the swing. The dr. said she must've had a seizure. No one even thought it could be related to shots. The daughter is now in her 30's. She is retarded. She will need help the rest of her life; she functions well, but is not able to live by herself. Another friend has a daughter that has been tested over & over & over, different diagnoses all around. The most often diag. is developmentally delayed. It all started when she was around 4 mo old, parents didn't really believe anything wrong until she was close to a year and couldn't even sit up. Seizures and meds all thru childhood--she is now 18 and will never be able to be on her own. Her younger sister is as perfect as can be. I worked in a daycare center where an infant died. It was the most horrible thing I have ever experienced. 4 mo old... shots one day, at day care the next day, and dead before lunch time...the person directly working with the babies had no real clue; after all investigations they said that it was a sudden onset of viral pneumonia....which was changed the next day to SIDS. Sick sick sick. I know of many others, including one of my best friends who's daughter recently reacted to varicella & hep B shots.....of course it also will never get reported. Why? i will never figure that one out. 



The reaction concept is amazing. You're right, there are waaaaaaayyyy too many people that just say "OK" to their doctor when he/she says that whatever problems they have now just can't be related to the shot they got yesterday, or 3 days ago or 5 days ago. Sad thing. Not only do they believe it--if they leave that dr's office with any doubts, it's usually self-doubts! And then of course it's never reported. I don't understand that either---why people don't report. Why don't they report a problem if they even suspect something doesn't seem quite right??? Why don't parents look out more for their kids? Are children born just to be handed over blindly to the mercy of what the system says we 'have to' do??



My children are fully vaxed.  If I knew then what I know now, I would not vaccinate my children.  I don't think the issue is whether a personis a Christian or not.  The issue is, if people assume vaccinations are the way to go because that's what they've always been told (like me), they need to know there is another way.  Some may call it being brainwashed, I call it being uninformed. 

 I am a registered nurse and cringe at the thoughts of the countless number of babies I vaccinated over the years because that was what I  was taught to do.  Now, I am no longer in the nursing field and have  learned there are other avenues of health care.  Focus on the Family is  an outstanding organization made up of people just like you and I.  Their way of thinking about vaccines is no different than mine was  this time last year.



I am a mom of three special needs seven year old boys.  My life is a living hell.  If I only knew... If I only knew....



When the doc's (including Freeman, which is why I hate him so) said to go ahead with the vaccines, despite her seizure disorder, I did. The reaction to Hep B was immediate. Then, finally, my eyes were opened (although it took 2 doses of the poison). At that point, I went back and reviewed all her medical records and it all fit...the original encephalitis was 28 days after her DPT and Hib V boosters. Too much time to even consider suing, but its there all the same. now I tell everyone I can. some refuse to listen and I just hold my breath when its people close to me, but thankfully, some DO listen, and more people are starting to take notice when I tell them that Hannah's condition is a result of vaccines. Barb and I gave the cab driver in Florida an earful when we learned he was a new grandpa. While we were still in the van he called up his daughter for us to talk to her...saved that one at least! love, Ellen



It just breaks my heart every time I read yours and other mom's stories of the horrible damage that these vaccines have done to your babies.  And how appalling these "top" doctors were in being so negligent and careless to allow this to go on. I'm so proud of all of you that are determined to get the "word" out of the dangers of vaccinations.  I just wish the government weren't so damn greedy for money.  And I'm especially proud that you and Barb were able to convince the grandpa cab driver and warn his daughter of the dangers!  You girls go!   :o))
 



It just doesn't make since to me to inject into a child's bloodstream chemical and toxins that are known to cause cancer.

I was watching one of those anti-tobacco commercials, where they put all the ingredients of a cigarette into a blender, one by one.  They announced formaldehyde, lead, arsenic, etc.  I thought, "Boy, they could make a commercial like that about vaccines."   Except it would be formaldehyde, mercury, anti-freeze (ethylene glycol), lye (aluminum hydroxide), etc.  AND this stuff is injected directly into the bloodstream, as opposed to inhaling the smoke from burning the mixture.   Add to this fact that we are injecting them into the bloodstream of babies and very young children.

My husband is a PhD chemist, and when I told him the ingredients, he needed no further persuasion to not vaccinate.  He said these are things that have "skull and crossbones" in his lab, and there is no way he would inject those things into our child on purpose!  Even if the vaccinations were effective in preventing the diseases they are supposed to prevent (which is arguable), he would rather take chances with the diseases.

Proponents say the poisons are in such small amounts that they are harmless. The thing is, they conduct tests on one vaccine at a time.  They have never done a study of all the childhood vaccines put together.  They don't take in to consideration what the CUMULATIVE effect is of all these small amounts of poison adding up over time.  This was, I believe, the mistake with thimerosal.  It is a matter of time before the other poisons become acknowledged as well.
 



It's not that you don't belong here - no, not at all.  We are glad you are here so you will have the opportunity to learn about vaccines.  But let me say this - whatever benefits gained by vaccines is far outweighed by the damage that the ingredients will do.  Saying that some reactions are treatable is a ridiculous chance to take with your child and I for one, am NOT going to take that chance with my child!  That's like saying it it's okay with you if your child gets hurt or gets cancer or whatever disease - because those things are treatable.  That doesn't make sense at all. 

I'm not sure which vaxs you believe to be worth the risk.... certainly not the chicken pox one I hope.  When was the last time you knew someone to die of chicken pox?  Is it worth it to risk a vaccine on a disease that is not life threatening and is easily treatable?  I think not.  Not the MMR - there is TONS of research showing this shot is a killer and maimer of children.  I wouldn't give that shot to my kid no matter what age! 

Yes, you are right that if you wait until one or two years of age, the reactions to the shots are less.  But please don't give the kid anything they don't need!!!  Have your doctor do the titers test to see if the child already has immunity - don't just give the shot because the doctors say to do it.  I will let my daughter have the tetanus shot someday because she will need that protection as we live in a rural area and share a farm with my brother - the chances that she will get hurt or scratched while out playing in the barn yard are pretty good. I stepped on a rusty nail when I was a kid and am glad I had a tetanus shot at the time.  I don't know what is in the tetanus shot but believe me I will find out Before I decide to give it to her.  But I won't give her all that other crap - the other vaccines are unnecessary in my opinion, and the opinions of most of the parents here.

I think maybe one reason you are getting such strong responses from people is that most of the other parents in this group have children damaged by these damn shots!!  Please read through the archived messages and find out the kinds of things these other families are going through. Why should we not try to stop you from poisoning your child - read what these other kids are going through and then tell us that the reactions are treatable and vaccines are beneficial.  Read the posts from a new member, Sue (whymythree) about how sick her children are and then tell us that you are still willing to risk your kids life.... there are plenty of horror stories about vaxs right here in this small group of people - read up, ask them about it, learn MORE before you decide!!  There are thousands of parents in this country right now wishing they had the opportunity to learn this info BEFORE their kids were damaged by the shots - they would give anything to be where you are know - loving and raising a normal, healthy child.  So don't think we are "jumping" on you for your opinions on this - we are just trying to get you to think it through a little more before your child is damaged as well.

Besides, just because there is no outward sign of vaccine damage does not mean there IS no damage.  I came to research vaccines because I have had FMS (fibromyalgia) for the last ten years. I didn't have it before I joined the Army and took all the damn shots they gave us!!  To my mind, there has to be a connection. The same goes for the high rates of allergies, asthma and ADHD in this country today. That is connected to vaccinations.  Now, asthma, allergies and ADHD are not as bad as austim and seizures like some children have after being vaccinated but that does not make them acceptable risks - far from it. You really can not believe that it is OK to give your kid asthma, ADHD, allergies AND the risk of austim and more serious complications all at the same time.  And who knows what other diseases you are increasing by using vaccinations.  Some would say the high rate of cancer in the world today is because of vaxs and I, for one, believe them.  Just because you can't SEE a bad reaction, it doesn't mean the child didn't have one.  Would you let your kid play with the mercury from a thermometer, suck on leaded paint chips  or drink the antifreeze from your car??  No, of course not.  Why let a doctor inject poisons into their little bodies then?

I may not be explaining this very good and if anyone wants to pick this up where I'm leaving off, please do.  My child is healthy and has not had any shots (except hepB at birth) so I can't talk first hand about the damage vaccines cause - but the other mothers here can so please listen to them.  We don't want to sit here a year from now and learn that your child is also damaged because of the shots - we want your child to be healthy and whole for his entire life.  Please don't take for granted your child's life and health - don't you see that others would give their right arm to be where you are now?  That is why some reactions you get are strong - not because we don't like you or anything like that.  It's about the kids after all.  I sobbed and sobbed when I read Sue's (whymythree) post about her kids and how badly they are doing - we don't want to read similar things from you about your kids, that's all.

Peace!
 



if the doctor says there is no thimerosal or any mercury derivative in a vaccine doesn't mean that it's true. learn the various names for mercury derivatives and then absolutely insist to see the vaccine insert and the package. another major factor is formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, and animal cells. you don't have to give reasons to your doc for not vaccinating. unless you live in wva or ms, you can use either philosophical or religious exemption, depending on the state's exemption laws. you do not need proof of vaccination until your kids enter school. if your ped doesn't like your choice of not vaccinating, find another ped. they are here to serve you, not the other way round.



I recently discussed counter-propaganda techniques with political scientist. He pointed out that when people have already been strongly ingrained with one side of the story, presenting the other side of the story aggressively is not only ineffective, but it can make them defensive and dig their heels in even deeper.  Rather, people are more likely to consider alternatives if the presentation contains BOTH sides of the story.  In other words, if you first validate where they stand so they don't feel attacked, then introduce issues they hadn't considered, they are more likely to listen.

Personally, I think this approach makes sense.  Even so, it is still a slow, uphill battle to educate people who believe they already know all the answers.   It isn't their fault--most of us believed in vaccines at one time too.  Dr. Mendelsohn said that it is no use trying to convince people that doctors are as trustworthy as used car salesmen.  People aren't willing to question their faith until they personally experience betrayal or injury. So, in as much as I think that commercial would be really cool, I am not sure how effective it actually would be.  People seem to need to be personally shaken into doubting vaccines.   If I had millions of dollars, I'd probably spend the money bribing some medical authorities to tell the
truth, as opposed to trying to convince the entrenched masses.   I dunno....

Just my 2 cents,



I have an interesting story from one mom that wanted to info on the ingredients and the incredible run around she got and finally verified what was in them. Scary. Also more and more Dr.s are refusing to give the vaccine inserts to parents who ask, Why is that I wonder? I think it's cause it was the inserts themselves that convinced me to not vaccinate.  It just doesn't make since to me to inject into a child's bloodstream chemical and toxins that are known to cause cancer. God knew that there would be these diseases on this earth and so he has given us herbs and natural ways, eating healthy and having a healthy lifestyle to overcome



Wendy, you're right, once the child is injured, it's impossible to go back. My son's autistic and I can't go back, wish I could. Would never vax again, ever ever. I was not educated before, I asked the dr if they were safe and he said yes and I trusted him. Little did I know! I did not have the internet back then, could not do my own research.




I am a home care physical therapist and recently saw a patient that had a grandson that died at 9 weeks of age.  I just had to ask if the child had recently had any shots.  So I did. The baby had some shots the day before and they attributed his death to SIDS.  Don't doctors see what happened. A+B=C in my opinion.  Are physicians covering things up?



My daughter came right out and told the boys pediatrician that there would be NO talk of ANY vaccines before her youngest is three years old, when he has  a developed immune system.  At least for now she has shut them up on their harping about them.

Her oldest is almost 6 now and fully vaccinated, and has severe allergies, had to have tonsils and adenoids out last December because of severe sleep apnea, and a short attention span.  His almost 2 year old brother is totally vaccine free and has had 1 cold in his life. Even when his big brother came down with chicken pox <yes he was even vaxxed for these last November, they had the little guy right up close and personal, including exposing him to  the blistered pox, and the little guy never ever even got them...but in all likelihood, he has developed an immunity to them, according to a specialist my friend knows.

I know this probably isn't a lot of help, but if you want to shut the doctors up, just tell them no talk of vax's before age 3, in that time, you will be able to arm yourself with enough information to confront the doctors with it to justify your beliefs.



Thank you for the information provided in your website.  My daughter is 11yrs old and had the first of her Hep b shots on the 22nd of Jan.  Otherwise perfectly well.  By the 4th feb, unwell but ok. By the end of that week severe stomach ache,  sore throat and headache.  It is now May and she has been diagnosed with post viral syndrome.  I cant believe what it has done to our lives.  She now has blurry vision, sensitive hearing, nausea, tummy ache, throat and headache, her knee joint and wrist joints hurt, she has disturbed sleep, she cries on and off all day.  She says she feels lost, scared, and awful inside, she wants someone to help her,  but there is not much anyone can do for her.  She has not been at school at all this year.  I downloaded lots of information including your notes on Hep B and will take them with me to her paed. on Friday.  .  I would appreciate it if you know of any children who have responded like this could you tell me the outcome for them.  Please tell me she will be well soon.  Any  other information would be very gratefully received.  After weeks and weeks of being on the internet I am coming to the realisation that her Hep B caused us to be in this position and that her illness which occurred around 2 weeks after the immunization was in fact a reaction to the immunization and not a virus at all.  Thanks again for your website, when I can I will read the whole site but for now I cant stay on the internet for very long as I am waiting  for my daughters dr to ring me.  XXXXX has had  blood tests at the beg. of her illness and some more taken last week.  Her Dr is interested in getting a cat scan or mri scan and to start her on physio.  I dont know what is the right thing to do anymore.  I have had to give up my job and I just want my poor daughter to have her life back, she is so miserable.   Regards



It is great to see a thinking parent who wants the cold, hard scientific facts when it comes to vaccinations.  My husband and I are both scientists, and we looked for hard evidence as well in reaching our decision.

My conclusion is that there aren't any--cold, hard scientific facts, I mean. There have been studies out the wazoo, sure, but none of them are scientific, either for or against vaccination.  If there is any hard fact that I can say with certainty, it is that the data and studies have been "doctored" (literally!).  The medical profession is not trained to do scientific research, and they know very little about it.  Most of their "studies" are what real scientists call "junk science" or pseudo-science.

How can so many educated people be wrong?  TRUST.  People trust what their teachers tell them, who in turn trust what they were taught, and so forth. When you are busy and you TRUST your authorities, there is no reason for them to read the actual studies and look at the actual data or study the product inserts, etc.  So all these experts keep on parroting what they TRUST is true information.  The thinking parent would be wise to not TRUST these experts, many of whom simply TRUST their authorities.  Ultimately up the chain, you find money speaking.

If you examine the economic context of the vaccine industry, you will find a corrupt network of institutions with no intellectual, professional, or moral integrity whatsoever.  Even if vaccines DO work, it would be akin to buying a blood transfusion from the Mafia.  The system (pharmaceutical industry, CDC, federal and state governments) has repeatedly betrayed public trust to the extent that no one should take their word for anything they say about vaccines.

I have written an essay about this lack of cold hard evidence on my website,
www.freedom2think.com/vaccinations/
 



Hi, It is very simple to claim a religious exemption , and the school can not ask any questions , Thats what we did , And we did'nt have any questions . It really makes me sick , Finding out that these vaccines contain aborted fetuses , monkey cells , and chicken embryos , No wonder why our kids are so sick. 



I have an 8 month old baby girl and was in EXACTLY the same position as you.  We did our first two rounds of vaccines (HIB and polio) and by the time it came time for the third in the series, I had read all this stuff about vaccines, was seeing first hand what vaccines were doing to one of my dogs and it just didn't feel right to continue vaxing.  So I didn't.  Stopping vaccination was the BEST decision I have ever made in my life - I only wish I had done it sooner and wish that I knew then what I know now.  Not a day goes by that I don't kick myself for giving 2 shots of HIB and polio.

If vaxing doesn't feel right to you (and it didn't feel right to me) then don't do it.  Once you give the vaccine you can't turn the clock back and undo things.  My doctor was completely unsupportive of my concerns about vaccines.  He's fairly holistic in his views but he completely pooh-poohed my questions. "Reactions are so rare.... vaccines are NOT linked to allergies.... it's all a bunch of hog wash... besides, don't you want your daughter to be protected against these terrible and deadly illnesses?"  I vax'd XXXXXX out of fear. That's what it came down to.  What I did not realize at the time was that in vaxing her I was 1) not guaranteeing her immunity against these "horrible illnesses"  2) that these illnesses are NOT all that common in the first place 3) I was putting my child at risk for chronic disease   4) mercury toxicity is VERY real and a serious threat to children under the age of 6 months   4) vaccines form a large part of a doctor's practice which puts him in a conflict of interest when presenting both sides of the story.  My daughter didn't spike a fever during her vaccines and other than getting a little cranky she "did fine" as well.  Now she's 8 months old, has never been ill a single day in her life but she's suffering from acne.  Why?  No idea.  Not a clue.  Allergy?  Perhaps.  Hypersensitivity due to the vaccines?  Perhaps. But now I'll never know because I gave those damn vaccines.  XXXXX is just going to start homeopathic care for the acne and I have not been able to trace the acne to a food allergy.  I will not take her to the doctor for the problem because the last thing I want to do is suppress the symptoms.  She's a happy child, very content and if she is "the one" who becomes autistic because of vaxing out of fear I could never forgive myself knowing what I know now. Once you understand the real dangers of vaccines, it's like opening up a door that can never be closed again.  Once you "see" the dangers you can't go back into naivety.  I only wish I had seen sooner. My best advice to you is this:  follow your gut.  I wish I had followed mine.



  My son (XXXXX,4) was vaxed until he was about 18 months old. He had some tremors on and off in the weeks following a battery of vaxes that he was given. The docs brushed it off as nothing, but I believe it was a reaction to the vaxes he received then. It was the only thing different that we had done. We stopped vaxing at that point. My daughter has not been vaccinated, and neither child will get anymore at this point if I have anything to say about it. SO, would someone care to point me in the right direction on how to do the exemption letter? Thanks so much,



I can say that I believe that tetanus vaccine is to blame for my son losing what little speech he did have after slipping into Autism very soon after his MMR, DTP, HIB at age 18 months.    He had been using single words (about 7) until age 3 1/2 when he fell and cut his head...he was given a Tetanus shot at the Emergency Room. (which was not necessary...at this age he had already had 4 doses of Tetanus in his DTP's and DTaP, and Tetanus is good for 7 years???)   My son spent the next 6 months wandering around the house making repetitive howling sounds...CONSTANTLY!...he has not spoken a word since...he is now 11.   Your doc may have been aware of the danger in Tetanus...I wish I had known!!!



the below article is good, so I thought I'd share the URL.  It's so disturbing to me, because my son is an insulin dependant diabetic.  When Dr Clausen first came out with his proof, I contacted one of the leading vaccine lawyers.....they said that my case wouldn't work because the vaccine law says that you have three years from the date of injury to file and it was 3 1/2 years.  I said, yes, but six months ago, Dr Clausen hadn't proven anything yet.

He said he understood, but that was the law and adios, basically.  I've kind of given up hope of compensation, but it makes me so sad.  My son costs about three hundred and fifty dollars a month, not including any complications that require the hospital.  He now has something going on with his liver, that I believei s a complication from the diabetes.  What does he do when he leaves home and doesn't have our insurance, yet is still unable to get a job with someone who will provide group insurance?  Cause in CA, someone with a preexisting condition can only get insurance through group insurance.

I really would have liked to have a fund set up for him for things like that.  

XXXXX had a horrible reaction to his first DPT.  He screamed at the top of his lungs for 7 hours.  Then he got really quiet....was white, stiff, then he stopped breathing.  I shook him and he started breathing again, but was stiff for over 3 days.  If you lifted a limb, it just dropped to the table, if you tried to move his head, it just rolled to the side.  I took him to the dr right away and they did tell me they thought it was a reaction to the P vaccine.....and not to give that anymore.

You would have thought I would have learned after that....but, I still trusted the drs and continued to vaccinate him, minus the P.  He had his last shot when he was four.......he got diabetes when he was seven. :(

Anyway, I just felt like sharing his story this morning.  Reading this article brought it all forward in my mind.



Yes, my children's pediatrician said the same thing.  I did not want my children vaccinated at all, but I was not asked when they were vaccinated at birth at Yale-New Haven Hospital, and my pediatrician basically wouldn't listen and pressured my into letting him vaccinate saying that no daycares would take them (I am a single mom and worked full-time at the time) or school when they were school-age. 

My children are now 10 and 12.  My 10 year old is Autistic, Epileptic and Mentally Retarded.  Officially, her diagnosis is PDDNOS with Mental Retardation.  She has Mercury poisoning from Thimerosal, the preservative in many of the vaccines given her.  She also has chronic constipation to the point that she has Enkopresis.  My 12 year old is also PDDNOS, but he is of average intelligence.  He also has Mercury poisoning from Thimerosal, but not to the degree that my daughter does.  My son has many allergies, as does my daughter, and both had asthma as young children.  I have not worked in eight years in order to care for them.  We live on Social Security, food stamps, Medicaid for health insurance, and my mother has to pay for anything else we need.  At 44, that is hard to swallow, but for my kids I do it. I do get Self Determination money to support my daughter, and that is helpful.

So, my advice to you is to beware of anyone who tries to tell you that vaccines are safe.  There simply is no such thing at this point in time.  Perhaps in the future...



I had a tetanus booster in 1998, within 5 months I had terrible pain in all of my joints:  knuckles, wrists, fingers, elbows, knees, ankles, toes...  I finally went to the doctor who did some blood tests (which showed nothing).  His diagnosis, "arthritis."  Of course I never related it to the tetanus shot, until lately.  Arthritis...I was 32 years old then!  I still have pain in my joints now and then.  It has improved, for now.  But what would happen to me if I continued getting a booster every 10 years???  I'll never know because I won't be getting another if I can help it...

Also, when I was 3 1/2 I had a rubella vaccination.  My mom said I was up all night crying in pain from my arm.  A month later I still was complaining of pain in my arm, and my range of motion in that arm was decreased.  The doctor's diagnosis, "Arthralgia prob. due to 3 day measles vac."

I'm just sorry I didn't realize the connection before I had my children vaccinated...  My daughter is due for a tetanus booster in 2 years.  That's one she won't be getting.  If she gets a puncture wound or similar injury, it will be treated with homeopathy.



Perhaps it will help if you hear personally from someone with a reaction to the tetanus shot.  I now have a permanent case of tetanus.  I was already suffering the effects of 3 years of antibiotic use from my dermatologist when I received the vaccine.  My chronic fatigue syndrome turned into fibromyalgia and chronic myofascial pain syndrome:
http://www.sover.net/~devstar/relative.htm

This is my medical diagnosis.  What I really have is a chronic case of tetanus.  What I'm faced with is lifelong pain. 



you're right to be suspicious, XXXXXX! I wrote to my MP some months ago with the question why the BCG vaccine is still recommended in the UK since it appears to be the only western country and since a WHO field trial that was carried out in India decades ago, showed beyond the shadow of a doubt that the BCG is not only useless in preventing TB but actually caused it in a
high number of people... the DOH wrote some wishi washi usual bullcrap in reply:

"Studies of the effectiveness of the BCG vaccine have given varying results according to which part of the world they were undertaken. For example, while the study referred to in India showed no protection, and studies in Malawi have shown better protection against leprosy than
against TB, studies in the UK both in infants and adolescents have consistently shown significant, though not complete, protection. The reasons for these differences are not known. It is on this basis that the UK continues to recommend BCG vaccine."

looks like they haven't got a clue what they're talking about! I've just written back to him with a few questions and a copy of the article about the withdrawal of the BCG vax. i'm looking forward to his reply...
 




Not anti-vaccine in the way you imply at all.

Several of the vaccines we currently use have been huge successes.  Polio is the best example, has saved literally hundreds of thousands of people from recombining crippled from the disease.
 
That does not mean that vaccines do not need to be made safer.  Perhaps you do not recall when the live polio virus vaccine was used, which actually induced polio in thousands of children.  For 15 years the FDA refused to acknowledge the data, and it wasn't until Saulk testified before Congress in 1976 that the FDA took notice and the safer IVP vaccine was developed. Perhaps you are unaware that the DPT is the single most reported vaccine for severe adverse reactions, with the pertussis element associated with onset of seizure disorder, encephalitis which can lead to permanent neurological damage, and even death. This vaccine was so dangerous to use that in 1986, under the threat of hundreds of lawsuits, the makers of DPT banded together and threatened to cease production of it altogether until Congress passed the VAERS system, ostensibly to preserve the public health and set up arbitrary time limits for reportable reactions to occur for successful claim.  Since then over 1.5 billion dollars has been paid out for children damaged or killed, with an average award of about $300,000.   Pertussis remains the product most associated with severe adverse reactions, despite the adoption of the much safer a-cellular form in 1990.  Testing has failed to identify the exact protein fragment which is needed to confer immunity protection without holding the risk of damage.  Despite the danger associated with DPT and DTaP, this vaccine continues to be used as mandatory, with admission to the public schools and welfare and other low-income benefits tied directly to compliance.
 
Need I mention the ill-fated Rotashield?  Or perhaps you would like to discuss the issue surround Thimerosal?

I do not think that questioning the safety of vaccines equates to being anti-vaccine.  In all other industries we constantly question the safety of the products being sold.  Vaccines are rather unique in two ways however.  First they are mandatory, with the vast majority of parents forced into using them despite known risks and often without proper explanation of these.  Secondly, this is a medical treatment made not by weighing the risks of treatment versus the risks of the disease or injury present, but performed on healthy people without the disease (having a major illness is an immediate contra-indicator to receiving the jabs after all) and so it carries a far greater responsibility upon the practitioners and producers for safety than other medicines or procedures. Not anti-vaccine, just for safer ones.

By the way, care to disclose the dollar value of all the gratuities and other gifts you received last year from pharmaceutical companies and the value of your investments in the same?



I have an autoimmune disease and because of this, my daughter was told no vaccines for her youngest son, who is currently age 2, before the ages of 2 or 3, preferably age 3 when his immune system will be much more developed. Unfortunately her oldest was fully vaccinated before we knew of my diagnosis, the difference between the 2 boys is huge. The oldest has severe allergies, gets sick a lot, a few other problems, though not severe are suspicious.  The baby, never vaccinated has no allergies, never been sick, except with one cold which was very light in symptoms compared to the rest of the family, and even when his big brother got chicken pox last year <and yes, he was vaccinated for them they exposed the little one to him, let the boys wrestle with no shirts nothing...the little guy never got the chicken pox.  His immune system is much healthier than his big brothers. Since dealing with my autoimmune disease and becoming proactive in my treatment, I have learned one huge factor...NEVER trust someone because their first name is *doctor*.

There is a book that came out recently it is called Autoimmune Diseases and Their Environmental Triggers by Elaine Moore that brings up the vaccine connection throughout the book to several autoimmune diseases which are on the rise in children.  I have Graves Disease, something that usually is not seen in young people, let alone children.  The increase of this disease in children is skyrocketing. This past year we have see the mom's of three 13 year old daughters with GD, an 11 year, a 2 year old and a 10 month old baby.

Tread cautiously, give the little one's immune system to fully develop before injecting him with the crap that is in vaccines.  Give him a fighting chance.  One site that I have found to be wonderful is www.whale.to   click on the vaccine link and then ingrediants, then look at the side effects of the ingrediants on a human body <most based on adult bodies.  Maybe hubby will at least wait until this little one's immune system has developed before continuing to push this issue.  Maybe he will even change his mind.



BTW I cannot prove it but I know the vaccinations harmed my daughter. Certainly after the last DipTet she had huge pupils constantly. This is a sign of toxicity. My daughter is no longer ADHD and hell will freeze over before I allow another shot in her arm.



My 26 month old daughter was born at home and not vaccinated.    She is frequently exposed to other children from homeschooling playgroups that I take her to.  So far in her life, she's only had 3 slight colds and breakouts of eczema from allergies.  Not one instance of a ear infection, or any other disease.  She is very healthy, active and bright. You also asked about personal adverse reactions to vaccinations.  I was a physically active social worker when I got a flu shot in September 1993. After the flu shot, I started developing strange symptoms, which culminated in a complete collapse 6 months later.  I became completely disabled neurologically and physically, bedridden and having to be carried to go to the bathroom.  I was diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and have since then found many other CFS patients who also got sick right after a vaccine. In fact, so many of his thousands of CFS patients got sick after being vaccinated that my CFS specialist (clinical professor at Duke University medical school) tells ALL his patients to not get the flu vaccine.  Trying to avoid 2 weeks of the flu is not worth risking a lifetime of disability. For many other stories of personal adverse reactions, www.thinktwice.com is a good place to start.  You start to get a sense of the real, untold story behind vaccinations.
 




This makes me remember when I was in the doctor's office once (allopathic) I saw the same nurse who had given xxxx his jabs. I was waiting out in the waiting room and saw a very bright, aware young boy, I can't remember his exact age now. What I do remember was his brightness and his awareness. I remember how BRIGHT and ALERT his eyes were, taking in EVERYTHING. He looked so intelligent, so alert.

I remember thinking, how come HE lived through the vaccine assault with no trauma, "life isn't fair," "why me," etc. Well, I soon saw that same nurse with a big lineup of syringes next to a medical chart. I said who are those for? She said, oh the little boy out in the waiting room who hasn't had any of his shots yet. I said, Is he getting all those in one day? She said, yes, he needs to catch up on his vaccines for school, he hasn't had them yet.
I remember just saying some prayers for that child. No wonder he looked so bright, so aware, he had had no brain stem trauma, YET. god only knows, what happened to that bright looking boy, and his poor mom.
 



We all struggle with these questions you posed.  Usually the "disease" our kids/grandkids get from vaccines are lifelong and disabling.  I am convinced in my own mind that most SIDS death are related to the mandatory vaccines that are given to infants.  I have a friend whose grandson died at 2 months, they called his death SIDS.  I asked her if he had been vaxed before his death, and she remembered seeing the calendar on the wall, and yes it was in the same week of his death.  Until more families whose child dies of "SIDS"  boldly speak out and are not afraid to assert that the vaccines must have contributed to their child's death, and demand more investigation into this cause of SIDS it will keep occurring.  To me the death of an infant is the worst consequence of vaccines.  My grandson is moderately to severely autistic, and we believe without a doubt the vaccines caused it.  He was developing normally until at 23 months he received his last round of shots which included the MMR and Chickenpox vaccines.  It is madness in my opinion.  Unfortunately they have added many more since my grandson had his last round.  He hasn't received the boosters the state required.  Our doctor has no problem writing a statement that XXXXX has received immunizations and won't receive more.  He believes (unofficially) that vaccines caused his autism. This doctor is our family doctor, because after my grandson became autistic the Ped that gave him the shots kicked him out of his practice.  He said he didn't know anything about autism and refused to be his doctor! 



 I have been researching disease, vaccines and their reactions for a little over three years now.  I have spoken with parents over the phone who thought there child was having a reaction, I have spoken to parents after there child went through a reaction, but I had yet to actually see a child have a reaction until last night. 
 
I was at a Home and Garden Party last night, and one of the women there had brought her newborn girl, my son is about 9 weeks old and so I would judge hers to have been about the same.  Her daughter seemed fussy all night long and finally got to a point where she had to leave the room because the child would not stop crying.  I watched her try to nurse and do everything  she could to calm her down, but nothing worked.  I waited for a few minutes before I went into the other room with her because I thought maybe the child was just cranky and mom was uncomfortable nursing in front of people.
 
The childs crying became very high pitched and really disturbed me.  My first thought was that the child needed to be adjusted, so I started talking to the mom about chiropractic, she said she knew about the benefits of chiropractic and was having her four year old adjusted but had not had the newborn because she was nervous about it.  The mom was holding the child close to her body and as we sat there I reassured her on having her newborn adjusted, as both mine were adjusted within days of their birth.
 
Then she turned the child around and I saw the most terrifying thing in my life.  The childs eyes were so wide open and she had this look of terror in her eyes.  Then I noticed her body, she was as stiff as a board her toes were pointed so straight it would have made a ballerina jealous, it is very hard for me to put into words what I saw, but you could just tell by the look in her eyes that her body was being wracked with pain.  I was in shock, literally, it took me a couple of minutes to gather my thoughts and I asked her when the childs last vaccination was.  The mother shook her head and said, "I knew it, it was five days ago."  That mother knew what was happening the moment I asked her that question.  She said she had been fussy ever since she had had her last vaccination, and that she seemed to be getting worse every day.  I asked her how many they gave her. Four, they gave that baby girl 4 vaccinations in one visit!  One of them was the new PCV-7.  The moms husband had just told her that morning not to vaccinate the kids anymore because he had heard a radio program and was not sure vaccinations were safe, he wanted to do some research first, but she went ahead and did it anyways.  By now she was in tears and saying she wished she had listened to her husband.
 
Fortunately my chiropractor was there and she adjusted the baby girl.  I had the mom call her midwife and tell her what was happening.  After the adjustment the baby just melted in the DC's arms, it was amazing.  She was still having periodic screaming fits but seemed to be getting some relief. 
 
I went home that night and fell into my husbands arms and cried my eyes out.  I had been holding it together while I was with the mom, in order to give her support, and could hold it in no longer.  The mom called me this morning and said the baby was doing alot better, she had had a rough night but seemed back to normal this morning.  Now we are going through the steps to get this reported, she is going to start getting informed on vaccinations and she is going to start getting the baby adjusted.  One of the things that really bothered me was that she had mentioned to the Dr. that her daughter seemed to be sick, and she did'nt know if it was ok to vaccinate when they were sick.  These Dr.'s are making me sick more and more every day!  For all the money they spent and the years of education it  becomes more clear that they have no common sense!, and that my friends is free.  It has cost me only in books and time to learn what I know and it scares me to think I know more than some of these &quot;Dr's.&quot; do about a subject so important, and parents are putting their childs lives in their hands!!  Last nights experience instills even deeper in me that this is a cause worth fighting for!  First I was fighting for something that was right, now I'm mad.



No parent should ever have to go through this loss because of vaccinations that are mandated and in my opinion, nothing more than experiments on our babies and children at such a huge cost.



i have a girlfriend who's son was damaged by the MMR vaccine. this year she is taking him to a speech pathologist. the speech pathologist says she sees many children who experience speech delays after a vaccine ... huh?! so if it's so obvious to this speech pathologist ... why is the medical profession still saying no side effects really exist. jeepers!



hi,
someone asked a few days ago about translating this italian text (far below) and i can't remember where, so i'm x-posting... a german/italian speaker kindly translated it for me into german, so here is the english transl. with regard to our knowledge to call "autism" autism, this is incomplete, no longer sufficient for us; we should say that the illness is called "damage through encephalitis". and here the explanation: the vaccines cause a swelling, an inflammation of the brain and this is what happened to them. if we want to find names for the things in front of our eyes, we would have to say "encephalic syndrome caused by ?myelin? (mielite is inflammation of the spinal fluid) caused by mercury poisoning, viral fit, containing poison, with ?colitic? and own anti-bodies. nah, much to complicated, it's better to say "autism".......



Just a note, when my son had his reaction to his first round of shots, I questioned the doctor about thimerosal in the vaccines. He insisted the vaccines no longer contain thimerosal. I asked him if I could read the package insert. So he heaved a big sigh and when to get one. He came back in, made a big production about unfolding it and said, "Here, these are the  ingredients."  He then turned about as beet red as he possibly good and said, "Whoops, it looks like it does still contain thimerosal. Huh... I thought they had removed thimerosal from vaccines." With that he giggled, shoved the paper at me, said, "Oops...Oh well....for what it's worth," and left the room.

I was stunned.  This after the other doctor in the practice had spent 30 minutes convincing me (read coercing me) into doing the shots in the first place when I expressed concern because of our family's history of reactions to vaccines. The doctor that "discovered" the thimerosal with me then tried to coerce me into giving Kaiden more shots every visit we went in (and we were there a lot because of all of the problems from the reaction) and said, "Let's just try one and see what happens..."  Thank god, I finally came out of my stupor and left the jerk.  What the *%^& was I thinking?!  If I only knew then what I know now...

Truly,
 



Last week I was at the Christian school my children had previously attended. I noticed a student in probably the 5th or 6th grade with long hair on the back of her head, but on the rest of her head she appeared to have very short hair.  I know this is not part of the school's dress code.  She looked like a chemo patient, except for the very long strands of hair on the back of her head, like a pony tail.  I asked someone if she had been ill.  I was told that she had a reaction to an immunization LAST YEAR!!  All her hair had fallen out, except for the "pony tail."  How sad.  I don't know this family, but have to wonder if she has other symptoms as well. 

I started being resistant to immunizations for my children when they were babies.  Not because I had any knowledge about the symptoms and dangers, but because I didn't want to sign the consent forms listing all the possible side effects.  I think I have told you that the pediatrician refused to let my children be his patients from that point on. 

Name withheld................

JAMA. 1997 Oct 8; 278(14): 1176-8.
MA: CONTEXT: Alopecia is a recognized adverse effect of numerous medications, but vaccines are not normally considered a cause for unexpected loss of hair. OBJECTIVE: To describe case reports of hair loss after routine vaccines and to assess the hypothesis that vaccinations might induce hair loss. DESIGN: Case series with telephone follow-up. METHODS: Review of spontaneous reports to the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for  Disease Control and Prevention, and the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: Loss of hair following immunization. RESULTS: A total of 60 evaluable reports submitted since 1984 and coded for "alopecia" after immunizations included 16 with positive rechallenge (hair loss after vaccination on more than 1 occasion), 4 of which were definite and 12 possible or probable. Of the 60 cases, 46 had received hepatitis B vaccines. Both of the currently available recombinant products, as well as the former plasma-derived product, were represented. Females predominated in all age groups. The majority of patients recovered, but clinical features, such as intervals from vaccination until onset and the extent and reversibility of hair loss, varied widely. Nine patients reported previous medication allergy. CONCLUSION: There may be an association, probably very rare, between vaccinations and hair loss. More than 1 pathophysiologic mechanism may be responsible. Since apparently nonrandom distributions by vaccine, age, and sex could reflect biased case ascertainment, further research will be needed in defined populations with consistent case detection. RO: National-Library-of-Medicine



 

  I'm hoping someone can help guide me in the right direction in a lawsuit for a MMR damaged child. I am clueless and have no idea where to start. This is long, but I hope you'll continue to read and be able to offer some advice on this unfortunate situation.   My friends had a typically developing 18 month old boy. Walking, talking, eating by himself, climbing stairs, etc. He then developed a high fever, had trouble with his balance and had a "swimming" eye. They contacted his pediatrician with their concerns and was told it was probably a virus and put the child on antibiotics. After 10 days and many phone calls to the doctor, there was no improvement, but he was getting worse. He woke up one morning paralyzed on his right side. His eyes were shut and he was unable to open them. They rushed him to John Hopkins in Baltimore, MD, where he spent the next 9 days undergoing many MRI's, spinal taps and being fed steriods via IV. A team of 6 pediatric neurologists made him top priority, but still could not help them. He had a lesion on his brain that extended down the brain stem. They didn't know what it was, what caused it, or what to do about it. They finally released Maxwell to go home. There was no improvement, no hope for what could be done, and nothing further they could do for him. His parents expressed their concern over possibly being the vaccinations he had 11 days prior to all this happening. No one listened to their concerns and didn't investigate this possibility. He had the MMR, DPT, and a combo Vac all at the same time, while the child was ill with hoof and mouth disease.    They went home discouraged, only to rush Maxwell back to John Hopkins 5 days later after he developed a continuous twitch in his leg. Still after 7 more days, more MRI's and a total of 9 spinal taps, he was released with no improvement. Hopeless siuation for all  of us. This is when I found this informative group and Sheri advised that they seek attention from a homeopath. I relayed the message to them and they set up an appointment immediately for someone in Virginia. (we live in PA) Sure enough, she said his damage was caused by the MMR vaccine and started him on a rememdy to rid is body of this. That was several months ago. They continue their trek to  Virginia every 3 weeks and we're happy to report some changes in his condition. Very MINOR improvements,but improvements just the same. He can now roll over, can manage to hold his head back far enough to see a little out of the slits of his eyes (they are still shut), can now say a few words, such as Mommie and eat. This is a child that is pretty much at a 9 month level now. They have started him on physical and occupational therapy and are considering having his eyelids sewn open so his eye sight will not be damaged. Needless to say this has taken a toll on his family and friends in more ways then one.    Maxwell's mother is a stay at home mom to him and his older 5 year old brother and his dad is  vice president at a large bank. Once happy, they now face many challenges, especially financially. They will now have to foreclose on their home as Maxwell's expenses each month, leaves very little money left over. They are desperate and do not know where to turn. Perhaps a lawsuit? But there is no money for a lawyer. Is there any emergency funds available for something drastic like this? We welcome any advice and suggestions. We are desperate and need help and guidance.
Thank you,
Traci in PA            
 



Last year when my 3 year old was in daycare, she came down with a nasty case of chicken pox (her second time getting them). In fact, many of the kids in the daycare-and many of them vaccinated against varicella- came down with terrible cases of them. Three kids that had already had chicken pox got them again and two parents that had already had them got them again. The doctors speculated that the disease may have mutated because of the vaccine allowing the kids and adults to get them again. I plan on taking my son to play with the  first kid we know of that gets them!



Hi everyone, happy thanksgiving,
sorry but I think my previous message got lost, I'm not very good with computers. I'm new to this group but I've been visiting this site for some time now. I have four children and my youngest daughter XXXXXXX is autistic. To make a long story short, she was "normal" till age 3 when she started to regress. Before that, she had a DPT shot when she was 21/2 and that's when she started to have serious bowel problems. I've been trying to get her back since then and I've  been attending DAN conferences since they started in Montreal. XXXXX is on the GF/CF diet and eats mostly organic food. She's been tested and retested in labs like Great Plains, Great Smokies and Doctors Data. I even went to Texas two years ago and consulted a DAN doctor. I went a little overboard financially and realised I couldn't keep up. Nevertheless, I never stopped trying and finally found a naturopath here in my province, who understands the problems my daughter is facing. He attends conferences in the U.S on autism and beeing German, he also has links in Europe. XXXXXX has been on chelation for 2 years, yes she tried DMSA for 6 months but when I stopped consulting the Texas doctor, I stopped DMSA. She didn't realy respond to that, I think it wasn't for her. We are now working on her lipids and she takes oils and supplements plus nutrients derived from plants and veggies ( the formula comes from France and is called Pianto). The problem with xxxxx is that I have trouble getting her to concentrate, she still has bowel problems from time to time and a lot of anxiety. I read about GABA and Preg. and other stuff, and I'm wondering if anything would be indicated for her?




My son has had severe reflux since his first (and only) shots at 8 weeks old. He "choked" as well which is really aspirating (sucking fluid into the lungs).  He is on Baby Pepcid (coincidentally the "in" drug for all the thousands of babies that now have reflux!) and it costs $100/bottle and is in such high demand we have trouble getting it. Hmmmm... anyone see a connection?!

We have an appointment to see a homeopath for him next Tuesday. I'll keep you posted on what happens! I can't wait to get him off the medicine.



Just want to say I called my mom and dad tonight in Tucson.

They have refused the flu vax for the last few years under the influence of me.

Today my mom went to her internist. (my mom is an RN graduating in 1948!) He said - 'have you had your flu vax'
Mom:  No
Dr.:  Why not?
Mom:  Because it has mercury/thimerosal in it and I don't want that.
Dr.  (mom said he was shocked)  Why would there be someting like that in something that is good for you?
Mom:  Well its in there
Dr.:  Can you tell me who told you this
Mom:  No, I don't want to say (she thinks she needs to protect me or they'll come after me - I told her I'm already plastered everywhere around
the planet)
Dr.  Well, can you get me information on it?
Mom:  Yes I can.  And then she told him that mercury also was in children's vaccines until just recently some was taken out and he didn't say anything Dr.  Well, I read as much as I can and want to know these things so really would like what you can get for me
Mom:  OK

Mom says he's a really nice doc and she likes him

I said, that may well be, but where has he been,under a rock?

I said if you'd known all you'd have had to say was look at the package insert in the box in your medicine room. Jeeshhhhhhhhhh. 

So even the good docs don't have a clue........mom said to me he probably got his info from the drug rep.
GO MOM!

So now I get to copy the package insert and send it 1/2 way around the globe when the info is right in the flu vax box in his office and his PDR.
DUHHHHHHHH
 



I also first joined this list when my daughter was around 3 months. I was a
first time mom and I was very confused about the whole vaccination issue. I
was lucky that I was unsure enough to hold off on vaccination until I
learned more. Now my daughter is 13 mos and I am not confused any longer.
This list is wonderful and I no longer have any doubts. I can see how
healthy she is and how great she is turning out. It is normal to have all
these questions in the beginning, but just read as much as possible and
keep talking to everyone here. I am so thankful for finding this group and
doing the best for my daughter. I refuse to live in fear and I have always
taken her out everywhere with me and she has been exposed to many kids. I
prefer to keep her immune system healthy as the best defense. I have an
8-year-old stepson and he was fully vaccinated. He comes over several times
a week and he is sick pretty much every week too. He hugs and kisses my
daughter and she has never caught anything from him. I know it is hard to
worry when they are so young. Are you breastfeeding? I believe that
breastfeeding and not vaccinating are the best things you can do to keep
her healthy. I don't talk much about not vaccinating to other people
outside the family. It is really none of their business. Sometimes I just
want to talk to everyone about it, but I am not too comfortable with that
yet. Maybe when she is older. About the "vaccine-preventable" diseases, I
think it is good to read about them and familiarize yourself if you
vaccinate or not. Many children that are vaccinated still get these
diseases and just because you don't vax it doesn't mean that your child
will get them. Welcome to the group. What state are you in?


 




I'm hoping someone can help guide me in the right direction in a lawsuit for a MMR damaged child. I am clueless and have no idea where to start. This is long, but I hope you'll continue to read and be able to offer some advice on this unfortunate situation.    My friends had a typically developing 18 month old boy. Walking, talking, eating by himself, climbing stairs, etc. He then developed a high fever, had trouble with his balance and had a "swimming" eye.  They contacted his pediatrician with their concerns and was told it was probably a virus and put the child on antibiotics. After 10 days and many phone calls to the doctor, there was no improvement, but he
was getting worse. He woke up one morning paralyzed on his right side. His eyes were shut and he was unable to open them. They rushed him to John Hopkins in Baltimore, MD, where he spent the next 9 days undergoing many MRI's, spinal taps and being fed steriods via IV. A team of 6 pediatric neurologists made him top priority, but still could not help them. He had a lesion on his brain that extended down the brain stem. They didn't know what it was, what caused it, or what to do about it. They finally released XXXXXX to go home. There was no improvement, no hope for what could be done, and nothing further they could do for him. His parents expressed their concern over possibly being the vaccinations he had 11 days prior to all this happening. No one listened to their concerns and didn't investigate this possibility. He had the MMR, DPT, and a combo Vac all at the
same time, while the child was ill with hoof and mouth disease.    They went home discouraged, only to rush XXXXX back to JohnHopkins 5 days later after he developed a continuous twitch in his
leg. Still after 7 more days, more MRI's and a total of 9 spinal taps, he was released with no improvement. Hopeless situation for all of us. This is when I found this informative group and Sheri advised that they seek attention from a homeopath. I relayed the message to them and they set up an appointment immediately for someone in Virginia. (we live in PA) Sure enough, she said his damage was caused by the MMR vaccine and started him on a remedy to rid is body of this. That was several months ago. They continue their trek to Virginia every 3 weeks and we're happy to report some changes in his condition. Very MINOR improvements, but improvements just the same. He can now roll over, can manage to hold his head back far enough to see a little out of the slits of his eyes (they are still shut), can now say a few words, such as Mommie and eat. This is a child that is pretty much at a 9 month level now. They have started him on physical and occupational therapy and are considering having his eyelids sewn open so his eye sight will not be damaged. Needless to say this has taken a toll on his family and friends in more ways then one.
  XXXXXX's mother is a stay at home mom to him and his older 5 year old brother and his dad is  vice president at a large bank. Once happy, they now face many challenges, especially financially. They will now have to foreclose on their home as XXXXXl's expenses each month, leaves very little money left over. They are desperate and do not know where to turn. Perhaps a lawsuit? But there is no money for a lawyer. Is there any emergency funds available for something drastic like this? We welcome any advice and suggestions. We are desperate and need help and guidance.



BLUE BELL -- Like most 10-year-olds, Angela Greenwood likes to spend her summer days hanging out with friends, swimming and playing softball. The quick-to-smile youngster has special needs her peers and their parents don't have to worry about, however. Angela suffered a brain injury as an infant and hasn't developed beyond the mental capacity of a toddler, according to her mom, Susan Greenwood.

She needs respite care when not attending life skills class at the Montgomery County Intermediate Unit and not in the care of her mother, who works full time. Angela's need for extra attention and skilled care around-the-clock prompted her mom to look for outside help. Some assistance will come Sunday from funds raised by the 16th Annual Corvettes for Kids Inc. Corvette Show and Auction at Washington Elementary School along Route 100 in Washington Township.

Angela is spokesperson for this year's event, which raises money for local children with life-threatening or serious illnesses every year. Proceeds go to a fund that will benefit Angela and assist her mom in paying medical bills and purchasing needed adaptive equipment.

Angela's developmental difficulties began when she was a 2-month-old. She had a seizure following a routine DPT immunization that was intended to protect her from diptheria, pertussis and tetanus.

"Up until that time she was doing everything she was supposed to be doing as a two-month-old," Susan Greenwood said. "Then, after that immunization, she started getting stiff, and she was giving a strange, high-pitched scream. She threw her head back and just went limp."

Doctors couldn't immediately explain why baby Angela suddenly didn't respond to stimuli. It wasn't until later, after her daughter's condition remained permanent, that Greenwood suspected the vaccine as a culprit in Angela's developmental disorder. She learned a very rare complication to DPT immunizations can be serious, permanent brain disorder. "Angela has a severe developmental delay. Basically, it's brain damage," Greenwood said. It took Angela three years to learn how to walk, and five years to do so without leg braces, but she now moves unassisted, her mom said.

"She's a very happy, very bright, very uplifting child. She's also very hard-working," Greenwood said. "Everything she does, I consider it a small miracle," Greenwood said. "I remember sometimes how she used to lie there, limp, in her baby carrier."

As a single mother, Greenwood often finds it hard to provide all the things she wants for Angela. Although medical assistance covers most of Angela's health needs, additional things that might help her, such as adaptive computer equipment, are not covered.

"Angela doesn't speak, so it's hard to know how much she understands," Greenwood said. "Adaptive equipment for the computer might help her to communicate better. I'm hoping to use some of the Corvettes for Kids money to purchase this equipment." Angela requires at least 20 hours of skilled respite care weekly, something Greenwood's insurance does not cover.

"There's a lot of advocate work I have to do for her to get her needs met," Greenwood said. "I work full-time and pay for the house and the car. But I'm a single mom and she gets child support only sporadically. It's just difficult." Finding someone to look after Angela can be exceptionally difficult because of her special needs.

"She looks like a normal child. When we go to the store or a restaurant she's so happy she screams in delightful tones. People don't understand, she's just trying to express herself," Greenwood said. "We're also working on toilet training, and when you have a 10-year-old that's potty training, no one wants to take care of her. She has been excluded from camps and after-school programs because of it."

Greenwood does her best to keep Angela involved in the community through activities and church.

"She loves to be around other kids. I want her to do things normal children can do, but a lot of times handicapped kids just aren't accepted," Greenwood said. "One thing Corvettes for Kids will do is give Angela the opportunity to do normal things.

"I wanted to have a place to ask for assistance for things -- like if she needs braces, or for summer camp, or even for us to take a vacation. Just to do normal things people do that there really isn't the money for us to do."

Michelle Karas' e-mail address is mkaras@pottsmerc.com ©The Mercury 2002


I've been begging my parents not to get the flu shot anymore.  My step mom who has myeloma cancer, was told by her doctor that she needed to get the flu shot.  She told him that I have said that it is linked to Alzheimer's.  She said he laughed and laughed about that.  Then I asked her well, did you get it, and she said no.  I am glad for that but sickened that doctors are so ignorant at the detriment of their patients.



http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/Stories/0,1413,209%257E22484%257E1081097,00.html
Little lives are not forgotten
The Unforgettables Foundation's Lights for Little Lives' candlelighting ceremony is scheduled for New Year's Eve.
By DAVID JAMES HEISS
Staff Writer

REDLANDS When Dallas Hayes, the son of Dawnisha and Larry Hayes, of Mentone, was born, his parents were told that he was "the textbook baby."

Dallas was perfectly healthy, perfectly normal.

Dawnisha Hayes, who is now pregnant with another child, hopes that Dallas' story will be a lesson for parents: three-and-a-half month-old Dallas went in for his routine immunizations against diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis with deadly results.

"He was a perfectly healthy baby," Hayes said. "After he got his shot, he got a very, very high fever and passed away in the middle of the night.

"What people don't realize," Hayes said, "is that people have a choice. There's no law requiring' babies to get immunizations, because unfortunately some babies have side effects to the DTP shot: autism, brain damage, seizure disorders and even death."

Most parents are not prepared to bury their children, and the Hayeses were no exception.

Fortunately Larry Hayes works for nutritional services at Loma Linda University Medical Center, and knew Tim Evans, cofounder of The Unforgettables Foundation.

In the three years since its founding, Redlands-based The Unforgettables Foundation has assisted nearly 300 families financially and emotionally, providing dignified burials for children who died before their parents.

"No parent in the universe who wakes up in the morning plans the day for their child's death," said LLUMC child protection center coordinator Marie Dawson. "They're completely unprepared for it."

"The last thing someone needs in a crisis is to worry about burial expenses," said cofounder Sonya Evans. "It's been a pretty good effort. We've had a lot of support from volunteers for what we have. We've done well."

"When we formed this three years ago, we estimated that we would probably end up helping 75 families in our first year, and 100 during the second," said Tim Evans. "It's amazing how close we were: with 85 that first year, 100 in the second. As of early December, we already had a 100 requests for assistance this year."

The inaugural chairman of the organization, Thomas Sherwin, a pediatric emergency technician and medical director for the pediatric emergency department at LLUMC, has made sure the Unforgettables provides not only memorial celebrations of life, but is also preventing unnecessary deaths and educating people in the process



My son XXXX (is 3 1/2 years old)  lost the ability to speak after the MMR at the age of 13 months.  Prior to the shot he had been babbling, and saying ma and hi.  He could make no speech sounds at all for the next 14 months--all we heard was grunts from him.  He also appeared to not hear when we said his name.  He also had episodes when his eyes would roll back in his head for a few seconds.  We now know these could have been seizures.  These resolved about the time he started babbling again at the age of 27 months.  This past August he was diagnosed with a severe phonological disorder.  His speech is improving and we are pleased with his progress.  His hearing tested normal. 

Although we have gotten both a medical and religious exemption for vaccines, we still want to know what happened to him.  Was it mercury toxicity from the thimerosal?  Was it a vaccine induced encephalopathy that caused damage from which he is slowly recovering?  Was it an autoimmune reaction?  We are considering filing a claim for an off the table injury with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Fund.  Has anyone been down that path and willing to share about it?

I am hoping someone can relate to our story.  This has been a long and lonely road.  Finding a doctor who thinks that vaccine injuries can and do occur is a very very difficult task.  We do have him on video after the MMR when he could only grunt-it was as though he could not move his mouth.  Can any one recommend doctors (pediatric neurologists, language regression specialists, vaccine injury specialists) who can evaluate our son/ videotape and tell us what may have happened? 



welcome to the list. My son was hospitalized after the MMR. He didn't lose speech, but he was never the same. He suffered terrible gastrointestinal symptoms, and was diagnosed FTT. He couldn't eat, vomited all the time, and had terrible temper tantrums (melt downs). I know of two very good pediatric gastro specialists who have found measles in the gut, Dr. Krigsman, New York, and Dr. Buie, Boston.  But, you don't say whether your son has intestinal symptoms. There is a very good pediatric neurologist Dr. Andrew Zimmerman Kennedy Krieger in Maryland. Don't know if you could convince him of vaccine injury though. Has he ever received an MRI?
 




Much of the what the representatives of the STATE are being quoted as saying....such as... "....we find that many medical exemptions are BOGUS, due to MEDICAL QUACKERY".... or..."I have never heard of the Congregation of Universal Wisdom."....   or "religious conversion right before the exemptions are invoked."   ....has no basis for their individual scrutiny. These statements are THEIR own prejudices against those who are not involved in THEIR philosophies.  Anyone can convert to any religion or moral/ethical philosophy at any point in their lives.  It is of no one business what converts them or why.

When THEY make comment that the POLIO or MEASLES outbreaks that reoccurred were in the Amish or Mennonite Communities, they are using this as a basis of prejudice also.  They do not state that some of their communities actually take the advice of the CDC and vaccinate their children.  Many Amish couples I know have decided to go against the common tenets of their particular community by NOT VACCINATING their children.  Some have 12 and 16 children.  The older ones (most often) were vaccinated and as the parents became wiser on the subject, they decided to not vaccinate their younger children. What is never mentioned in any of these (quickly place together and highly edited) articles is that often the illnesses come to the non vaccinated through the illness of a vaccinated child(ren) of the community. The vaccinated children as experiencing the "symptoms of the disease" (that the CDC and the AAP) state are just the child's immune system REACTING to the vaccine.  It is never stated that the recently vaccinated child(ren) are now contagious and spreading the disease throughout the community.  And due to the fact that the Amish and Mennonite Communities are often so tightly net, the outbreaks are confined within those communities.  Thus it is easily tracked and their numbers revealed readily to the medical authorities.

The nurse also claims that the outbreaks of whooping cough is "horrible".."the children turn blue as they cough and may have to have oxygen sprayed into their faces.... "   What she fails to mention is that those children that she sees in the hospital setting have had at least two or more vaccines for PERTUSSIS...Whooping cough before the outbread occurs... Often these same children as 1.) not breast fed, and 2.) have been given some sort of antibiotic or even Tylenol or some form of anti fever medication to dispell the side effects of that vaccines.

I personally know of well over 25 persons who had whooping cough... (some with the benefit of using homeopathic remedies or some other complementary form of healthcare and others who were not)... all of these folks are happy, healthy and ALIVE today.   I know of a far greater number of vaccine damaged children who are NOT HEALTHY... nor are they HAPPY... and several are NOT ALIVE TODAY...   That is the truth and the facts speak for themselves... Their so called "fear of an EPIDEMIC" is the bogus attitudes that are seen today...  Autism, asthma, learning disabilities, behavioral disorders,  Chronic Ear INFECTIONS that lead to pneumonia and meningitis, SIDS, childhood cancers and leukemia, and juvenile rheumatoid arthritis are the epidemics of the present day...  What are we trading here?   Who and what are we attempting to cure or "clean" from the human DNA/RNA chain?  These points are never addressed in a majority of these articles...

Please take note of the following... I know that I have mentioned this before.....  In the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania the School Code lists under their exemptions one that is labeled "RELIGIOUS"..   You do not have to belong to any particular "RELIGION" that lists vaccines as "against our tenets"..... for there is also the portion of the exemption that states ...."or a moral/ethical belief similar to that of a RELIGIOUS BELIEF."    No
one has the right to question your religion or your moral/ethical belief systems..  This means that you can be an ATHEIST and yet claim the "religious exemption".  Atheism is a MORAL/ETHICAL BELIEF and thus qualifies under the religious exemption under this law.   It is against all CIVIL RIGHTS clauses to question a person on their religion as a basis of keeping them out of a school, business establishment, club, society or a to stop their commerce in any way.  When anyone questions your "RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION status under immunization laws, this is a violation of their CIVIL RIGHTS. Please understand that and keep that close to your heart, for that is the TRUTH... and all that really matters...
 



Even waiting till 2 does not guarantee safety.  My grandson was 23 months when he received the MMR and the Chickenpox in the same day!  That week he began his regression, and his spiralling into autism.  Before that of course, we were totally ignorant of facts about vaccines and trusting the doctor.  My grandson, like your son, had reactions at 2 months.  They were downplayed by the doctor though he did change the schedule to DT instead of DPT. Does that tell us something? 




Welcome to the group.  I just wanted to say that unless your doctor is the exception to the rule, you will probably see a little anger, and her defense might be a reprimand, and an attempt to intimidate you into submission.  There is an old saying that may apply to doctors who choose to trust the AMA, and value their medical license (they actually can lose their license if they take an antivaccination stance) "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up" 

 




Just a little fact: former USSR (yes, that evil communist Russia) did NOT allow vaccinating children within 30 calendar days after any minor illness...and prior to giving any vaccines, every healthy baby had to be examined by a pediatric neurologist (not just a family ped) for "clearance"...first vaccines were to be given at the age of four (4) months.
 




We just returned after 3 days at Massachusetts General Hospital in  Boston where William received a gastrointestinal endoscopy, as well as  a battery of all available state of the art tests for a medical  diagnosis.  
 Findings:  Noted nodular lymphoid hyperplasia at the sigmoid colon and  rectum.    This is the medical condition that Andy Wakefield is  finding with all (and only this set) of regressive autistic children.
 
 For us, it is a final answer to our questions about William's severe  food allergies, lack of ability to absorb nutrition to the brain, the  neurological damage that occurred to a once normal little boy.  It   proves that something happened to him, and that there is a medical  condition underlying his disability.
 
 William's gut is healing, as noted by Dr. Buie and his team.  The  nodules are soft and the inflammation is mild.  Something they are not  finding in all 4 year olds.  We will have test results and recommended
 treatments within a few weeks.
 



From what I understand you Have to give consent for the HepB to be given to the baby... just like any other shot. Maybe the perinatal coordinator was going to get the consent from you this early~ before the baby is born?

With one of my babies(he's now 4), the nurse came in the day after I had him and said "we're going to give the HepB shot now" and I said "I don't want that shot". She actually got mad at me and started the same old stuff (the baby Has to have it to go to daycare and then school! etc...) I said, "I don't think  my Infant has to worry about IV drug usage or sex, so we'll WAIT, thank you". She was still angry, wrote something on my baby's chart and stomped out of the room!lol The next baby I had at home, so I didn't hear it ;-)

My last baby(now 7.5mos old) I had in the hospital though, and they were not happy with us declining it. Now that I'm writing this out, I'm wondering if they Would have just given her the shot w/o our consent... DH stayed with her the Entire time she was in the nursery(weighing, measuring, etc.) because he told me he didn't trust the nurse(which if you knew my husband is a Big deal~ he's usually very nonchalant and nonconfrontational about pretty much everything.) He said he got the distinct impression that she was
irritated with him being there, and he wondered if she was going to try to "do something" behind our backs...

On the college front though, I just wanted to tell you that my oldest DD(20) just started our local community college this 2nd semester and they did Not ask for her vaccination record. I bet it depends on the college and when you enroll...
 



Yes, I got the measles and the mumps from the MMR while in college (1989). Sick as a dog, couldn't open my eyes, 104 fever, huge swollen glands... in bed for 4 days. I then developed severe allergies to every food, makeup, hairspray, shampoo, environmental allergent, you name it. Then CFS, IBS, and eventually myofacial pain syndrome. But - I was 20 years old! I should have never had the shot (again as an adult). I'd already been vaccinated with it as a child. My brother lost his hearing from the MMR shot as a child. My daughter got the measles from her MMR shot in 1999. She had a fever, watery eyes, typical cold symptoms, and small rash.  So as you can see, my family has a sensitivity to the shots. 

Very different to get it via the shot than the "normal" way. Of course the doctors all insisted you can't get the measles from the shot - until they saw us! Then they were all baffled, "huh..well, yeah, you have the measles (your daughter has the measles) I guess it *can* happen..."

I'll take my chances with my son getting it the "natural" way. He's already autistic from his DPT.

 



 
I would like to introduce myself.  My name is XXXXX and I have 3 sons.  I have had nothing but problems with shots.  My first son XXXX, now 5 1/2,spiked a high fever after each shot.  He suffered from multiple ear infections and pneumonia.  After his MMR he developed roseola "just a coincidence"  I was told.  My second son XXXXX developed menengitis a few days after his 2 month old shots.  Then a month after his MMR he stopped talking, looking at people and staring off into space.  He was diagnosed with autism and now has seizures.  My third son XXXXX, is now 1 and I refuse to have him vaccinated.  I fight with his doctor about it constantly but refuse to do so.  I have read that most other countries do not vaccinate until children are older.  Is this true?  I am also trying to figure out if I should vaccinate XXXXX later in life and in single shot doses rather than the multiple shots now, or if I should get the booster shots for my other sons----I don't know what to do!  I'm glad I found this group because the only other person I have asked have been doctors and we all know what their answers are!
 



This open letter is amazing. I am freaked out right now and in great  admiration of this doctor for taking such a bold step.  Am I the only one that thinks vaccines are being used to make our children  sick on purpose? I know I sound like I'm paranoid. I am truly beginning to  think it is one big conspiracy theory. Someone help me if I'm losing it. In  my own experience, I found it very coincidental "baby reflux" has increased  so dramatically and wonders upon wonders, Merck has just the cure (a  $100/month bottle of "baby" pepcid). Hmmm... it was the Merck vaccine that  poisoned my kid.

 Also... seems like all the moms I talk to today have a child with food  allergies, or autism, or speech delays, or ADHD, or sensory integration  dysfunction. Just about every mom I know right now has some issue of this  sort. When I was a kid, there was only one kid on our whole entire block (of  about 30 kids) that was "just a little different." My own brother was the  only one with allergies (who coincidently - not - lost his hearing from the  MMR and now I know his allergies were a direct result of his shots). But in  any event...  I know this group sees it, but why don't all the other people?  OK, I am being paranoid, right?

 I'm sorry... can you tell I am venting tonight. I've had it! The good  news... I convinced one mom I met at a mother's group to reconsider vaccines  after her 10 month old developed life threatening allergies after her second  round of shots. And her 4 year old suddenly developed all over eczema.  Within three days she went from "I highly doubt there is any connection to  vaccines and allergies," to "why is it I have talked to four other moms of  children with severe food allergies and all of our kids had bad reactions to  vaccines?!" Ahhh... my heart breaks for the moms but I felt a little bit  better. ;)

 



  Thanks must go to Rex Warren for forwarding this information. Please read   this full-page ad from the New York Times (link below) and know that there  are courageous and honest doctors out there but that they are a minority  and   need our help. Please write to Dr. Rath and thank him for his stand on  this   issue. I am going to offer to run a full-page ad for him in the next issue  of Informed Choice Magazine. May millions see his information all over the   world and may we wake up from our sheep-like state and put a stop to the  madness of the few that can kill and maim so many!
  http://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/makehealthnotwar/openletter.html
 



I started to realise too that a lot of the info I give or reasons why I don't vax just go in one ear and out the other.  Again my mom said, "I just don't understand how you girls both ended up with such bad asthma, maybe it was because of that factory that was just a few miles away..."  I said, "No, it's because of all the vaccines we got and you didn't."  I explained to her how my asthma got worse when I had a MMR booster at 20 and how my sister's girl now has asthma and behavior/anger/attention problems(vaxed) and my two kids don't.  She still won't accept it, just gets quiet.
 



I have heard that Ped's go to classes that teach them how to respond to parents fears of vaccinations.  The "understanding" attitude is one of their tactics.  But the fact they told you your child needed the number of vaccines they did is proof it is just a tactic.  They are concerned about the AMA and their medical license, not whether your child can handle vaccines.  When parents give in to the pressure and vaccinate and their child and have a reaction those "understanding" doctors say there is no connection between the reaction and vaccines.   Cathy

 



So XXXXX got his vaccine on Tuesday and last night he had a seizure. Now   after talking to his mom she's convinced there is no connection to the  vaccine. He has no fever, had no fever.  He's 6 months old.  What are the chances of this being a coincidence? It was more of a  convulsion type thing that an all out seizure. Lasting only a minute or so.
 



hi...i tend to lurk...but i just had to express my equal frustration. My children are in daycare 2 days a week and on friday i noticed that a little girl who was sick and lethargic last week is still ill this week.  THe daycare workers were expressing concern, and apparently the mother didnt have any concerns since she was vaccinated last week and "This is just normal"!!!!!  A WEEK!  Shes red faced, and her cheeks seem swollen, and her eyes are squinty and allll she does is sleep. THe daycare staff told me that shes usually only awake for 30-60 min a day!  How is this normal?  *grr*
 



I have had a similar thing, new parents signed on at a new doctors, went to discuss mmr with the doc for the 20 month, was told that they had been listening to the *horror stories* and were given the *information* on the 2,3,4 month and the mmr vaxes (not the list of ingredients!!) and have decided that I am only out for scaring them!! i had been able to convince them that the *reflux* that their son had 48 hours after 2nd lot of vax, when he stopped breathing and was rushed to hospital, was in fact vaccine a
reaction, but it seems I was talking to the wall!!! sorry for the rant!!!
 



I second this. My son XXX was more than a year behind after he lost the ability to speak after the MMR at the age of 13 months and could ONLY GRUNT for the next 14 months. Read the book, Late Talking children, they may help calm you down. Wade is now progressing with his speech and although not caught up yet, we expect a full recovery.
 



2003---It
happened to my family, will it happen to others?

Parents,

Sunday, February 23, 2003, I was home in the early afternoon with my son, Eric. My wife, Helen and my 14 year-old daughter, Julie were off at a play performance a mile away from home. For those that do not know, Eric is 6 feet tall and weighs approximately 150-160 pounds and is 18 years old. He is very muscular. I'm 5'10", 220 pounds and 58 years old.

Eric was eating when he started to have a tantrum. I had to run in one of the rooms and lock the door until Eric calmed down. Usually it works but this day it didn't. Eric started to kick, head butt, scratch and bite. I
couldn't get into the bathroom door to lock it so I ran to the front door. Eric followed me where he head butted me and pulled my hair.

I then ran outside across the street to get help from my neighbor. Eric followed me. When I got to the front door of my neighbor, Eric bit me left hand and had two of my fingers in his mouth clamping down with his teeth (the index finger next to my thumb and the finger next to that). I was in extreme pain and with my right hand worked Eric's teeth off of my left hand. If I hadn't done it sooner, I would have lost the two fingers because the one finger was bitten so severely that the nail was hanging off. I rang the doorbell and my neighbor came out and helped me with his wife and a young girlfriend of their son. Another neighbor came and helped with Eric. I was treated for my head scrape, my nose bleed and wounds on my hand (that I later found out were more severe). The police were called (two came) and my wife and daughter were called. The Emergency Squad came and took me to the Emergency Room at the local hospital.

At the hospital, there were X-rays taken and they found that my left index finger (one next to the thumb) had the tip of the bone amputated from the rest of my finger. Eric had actually bitten through the bone of my hand. A hand surgeon was in the area and he came by and after my wounds were cleaned and my finger soaked in an antibiotic solution, it was stitched up with the finger nail put back in the correct position. It was bandaged up along with my other finger on the end that had been badly bitten. I received
antibiotics and pain killers and are taking them now ....Augmentin and Oxycodone w/Apap respectively.

This isn't the first time Eric has attacked me, Helen and Julie and it was mentioned at the December 10, 2002 hearing in Washington DC conducted by Congressman Dan Burton. (see http://www.autismautoimmunityproject.org/120302_hearing.html) Congressman  Burton mentioned that his grandson could eventually be 6'10" and ask the people at the hearing what would happen when all these children grow up and have these behaviors.

I have been fighting since 1995 regarding the MMR vaccine link to autism. In 1998, our organization, The Autism Autoimmunity Project was founded and to date we have raised a bit over $120,000.00 for research. In talking to Dr. Vijendra Singh of the Utah State University (who has been funded for his research into the autoimmune link to autism) he knows that we could be treating these children with various immunotherapies but unfortunately the money is not there. We could do a lot more for the children with autism but most of the millions of dollars of research funds are spent on genetic and drug studies.....and very little on the immune and gastrointestinal research unless it is by small organizations like ours.

It is a shame because in 5, 10 and 15 years, there will be more families that will have the same thing happen to them. Will the children attack a family member, someone at school or a stranger? These children will grow up to be large, healthy adults.....what will happen then? I'm facing the situation now where I'm racing against time to get my son better through homeopathic treatment. My son regressed into autism after the MMR vaccine in 1986 (at one year, three months old) and in 1993-1994, his behaviors got worse because of three hepatitis B shots he got with thimerosal in them. By looking at the pediatrician's notes that we recently got and a record of the vaccines Eric got, an MD could see the connection as could me and my wife.

What will happen over the next 5, 10 and 15 years? Will we get the treatments or will we face a bleak landscape of children growing into adults and not being helped? Our family has to face the prospect that if we can't help Eric, he will be sent to an institution where he will surely die.

Raymond Gallup, Founder Autism Autoimmunity Project
 




I do honestly believe that it was the vaccines that killed my son. I have mentioned it to his doctors but it just seems like they want an easy open and close case so they are just calling it SIDS. I am talking with a lawyer and I am filing a claim with the vaccine injury compensation program (VICP). I am suprized that the medical industry has gotten away with it for this long because I read on the VICP website that over 90% of the claims filed with them involving infants and death were originally listed as SIDS until the VICP investigated it further. To me that seems like way too many infant deaths cause from vaccines for them to still be allowed to vaccinate infants. You shouldnt recieve a vaccine for something if your chances of actually getting the disease that you are being vaccinated against is lower then your chance of having a reaction to the vaccine. Alot of the vaccines they are requiring infants to get, they really dont need. Like polio, the only known cases of polio in the US are from when they used to give the live vaccine and people got it from that,and even then there is only like six people who have polio in the united states right now. Polio used to be something we had to worry about but I dont think we do know because it isnt around like it used to be. some of the vaccines out there are pointless but the medical industry doesnt care because they are making money off of it. They have it so they are going to use it.
 



I learned something interesting this week. My sister has a 5 month old baby and is following Dr. Cave's vaccine schedule. She is getting ready to have her 1st DTaP and brought home the package insert for me to read prior to allowing them to "stick" her daughter with it. Keep in mind that these are the new 1 dose vials. It reads as plain as day, "The 1 dose vial of vaccine is formulated without preservatives but contains a trace amount of thimerosal[(mercury derivative), 25 mg mercuy/dose]. I was infuriated! After all, the FDA, etc. is jumping up and down assuring parents that thimerosal is no longer on the shelves! Well, I have proof that it is...in the new 1 dose vials! UGH!!!!!
 



Hi Wendy, I thought you would like to see my letter to the "dr." who wrote about the "free ride." What do you think? (Herd Immunity)

Dear Dr. Nathanson,
I would like to respond to your recent column concerning unvaccinated children. You are obviously a strong proponent of vaccines, and I respect your right to your opinion, but I should like to share with you "the other side of the coin."

A year ago, I believed in vaccinations wholeheartedly. I vaccinated both my children and waved those immunization cards around proudly. My eldest child did just fine; she is bright, articulate and full of joy. I wish I could tell you my other child faired as well. Within days of his 5 month series of shots, my child who was sitting, rolling, and laughing...began to seize uncontrollably. I know you will say "coincidence"; however, a 6 month hospitalization, with every conceivable test performed and every known anti-epileptic treatment tried yielded no answers. He was seen by the top epileptologists in the state of NY, who conferred with the top epileptologists around the world, and a year later, the only answer we have is "idiopathic."

You mention a "free ride," Dr. Nathanson. I would like to invite you to come and meet my "free ride"; my son, who now at 19 months old, no longer can hold up his head, much less sit, needs to be fed by a feeding tube, doesn't know any member of his family, and still seizes uncontrollably, despite mega doses of drugs. His care has depleted our savings, and our spirits -- one medicine alone costs us $175 every 10 days, and that is out of pocket with insurance. Our simple dreams have been shattered, and our lives irrevocably changed. Far from "free," doctor; we have paid the ultimate price for this ride.

I do not expect that my little story will change your mind, or even phase you. I would just like to make a point. Parents who choose not to vaccinate have not arrived at their decision lightly. It is an agonizing journey, made with much research and soul searching. I spent hours choosing the correct car seat and stroller; perhaps if I had spent half as much time researching those shots, instead of holding my child down for them, I would be in a much different place.

My children are my life, and I will care for my son out of my unending love for him; however, my life on this "ride" will always be full of the "what ifs." I just wish you could have presented your own viewpoint without needlessly hurting those of us who already bear the greatest hurt of all.

 



I called each manufacturer to get the total amount of thimerosal exposure in my son.   I didn't have any problem getting the info.  You tell them the lot number and they'll tell you how much thimerosal.  They were able to tell me if it was multi or single dose as well.  I couldn't believe how causual they were about it.  It is still hard for me to believe that our children have been exposed to such dangerous substances.  I wish I had known and/or someone had pointed out the ingredients to me.
Can't find all the numbers.  Here is Connault  1-800-822-2463.  You can probably find the contact info. for the manufacturers on the web.
 



MMR dilemma-
I have an interesting problem. Mother of a family with an interesting historyt with the MMR vaccine.
First child, female, now 10, recieved the MMR at 15 months. Fifteen days later, had prolonged seizure ( 1 hour, rectal valium, the works) after which she was sent to the tertiary center, negative workup. Was on Phenobarb switch to Depakote secondary to sedation, weaned later and has never had a sz again. Second child, male, MMR with no problems. hird child, male, got MMR at 15 months, 2 days later had seizure, about 3 minutes, without fever. Did well, now 6 with no further sz. Fourth child, now 4. Mom is still refusing and is reluctant to give the MMR, which I can't blame her. What should I do, or how should I counsel this family?
 



I agree with Sheri. My 3 1/2 year old had his recommended vaccines, excluding the hep b, until he was a year old, I researched more when it came time for the MMR and that is when I stopped. I had met a woman
who's son was autistic. She said that he was starting to talk and was developing normally, then within 24 hours of the MMR he was went downhill. That scared me. Anyway, my three year old was sick quite a bit in his first year, he had a few ear infections and other illnesses, he is way behind on his speech and was recently diagnosed with asthma, another, all have been linked to vaccines. My ten month old hasn't had any vaccines and he has NEVER had an ear infection and has only had one cold so far. He is also already trying to talk. The differences are amazing!

It really can be a hard decision to make, go to the VAERS website, I did and found out that there are 1,644 PAGES of adverse reactions to vaccines in 2002 alone! That is PAGES not incidents! And those are just the ones that are reported! It is insane!
 



my 11 year old brother, who was vaxed for CP, had shingles last year. at the time, i had never heard of such a young child getting it, but it is going to become more and more common



My son also "reacted" to the Tetanus part of his DPT, not just the mercury in it (and he had his shots in September of 2001 well after all the thimerosal was "Supposed" to be removed). In fact, the doctor kept insisting it didn't have thimerosal until I made him read me the package insert and then he said, "Oops," giggled and threw the sheet back at me and said, "oh well...for what it's worth..." and walked out of the room. I walked out and never went back.
 



I remember an incident that happened last fall. I have myasthenia gravis (thank you, flu vaccine, 1998!) and was at my neurologist's office for my regular visit. He asked if I'd had my flu shot for the year, as they were offering them free to all the patients in the muscular dystrophy clinic (if you can imagine!). I looked at HIM like HE had five heads. I then simply replied, "No thank you, I've had enough mercury already." He had no comment...
 



Static encephalopathy, as I understand, means brain damage that is non changing. Basically "static" means non changing and "encephalopathy" is brain trauma or damage. Meaning that the damage is not getting worse, not progressive. Usually cases of static encephalopathy occur or are referred to with children who have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, a head injury or in our case IMMUNIZATIONS that caused brain damage. My neurologist said my son had "Static Encephalopathy" and I asked my pediatrician the next day what that was and he laughed and said "That means he has no idea what is wrong with your son or why he is like the way he is". Yeah, he thought it was funny!!!!! I almost choked him. So when they wont admit that immunizations are the cause they deem them to have static encephalopathy and in my case it was noted "Static encephalopathy with no known cause" Of course we know the cause.

Don't get frustrated when you research this you will see mostly references to FAS. I thought that he was implying that I drank during my pregnancy but he assured me it also happens for "unknown reasons"!!!!!! (unknown reasons=vaccinations) It basically means at some time in your sons development that he experienced something that damaged his brain and they don't know what .

 



Yeah she was a supporter of vaccinations, back in 2000 when most of us didn't know what was going on with them. I certainly hadn't made the connection between JR's vaccinations and his autism. Not until  June of 2001 did it start making some level of sense. And even then I didn't have the full picture. It wouldn't be until I got his medical records (September 2001) and was able to read them that the pieces actually started coming together. The "mysterious" upper respitory infection after a series of vaccines at 2 months of age. The Pink eye 1 week (exactly) receiving his very last (ever) vaccines of MMR with the boosters of DTap and Hep B. One month later another round of Pink Eye. And then for the next year every month after that a sinus infection. No I didn't know when he was a baby what the damaging effects were of vaccines. Hell we thought we were being good parents  vaccinating our kids. It never crossed our minds to question AND that was a time when my faith in the medical establishment was so-so at best. But still we never thought to question.



We live in the MidWest, and have a large family of kids, all from our single marriage. Unfortunately, four of those kids are confirmed autistics, almost certainly from adverse vaccine reactions that we were told never took place nor were any ever reported to the CDC ... very long story of 17+ years, filled with smoke, mirrors, coverups -- but at least we're all still here and together.

The affected kids range from very HFA (High Functioning) to 'not so  lucky'. One child was almost certainly damaged soon after birth by Vitamin K injection(s!), and additional vaccination did even more harm. The child after that one had three separate adverse vax reactions, and of course is the most damaged of the four. We've since learned what a nasty thing vaccines really are, and  refuse to vaccinate ever again and are going for a religious  exemption. But we were all-but-forced with various implied threats, especially with the 4th (damaged) child to still vaccinate, "or
else". With the incredibly obvious adverse reactions in the 4th, we were absolutely convinced. Vaccines caused our childrens' autism, no doubt about it. But we also now have suspicions that the Vitamin K shots may have set things in motion to begin with ...

We're now trying to learn all we can and maybe share that knowledge with others to help them avoid what happened to us. And network with others and learn if there is anything else we can do to lessen some of the damage done or even reverse some of it, via more holistic means if possible (needless to say, we no longer trust mainstream medicine anymore).
 



I am a mom of 3 children. One 7, one 4 1/2 and one forever 2years 3 months. Our youngest died last October during a 3+ hour seizure. She showed signs of neurological damage the morning after her 2nd round of shots. She went into Status 8 days after her shots. No history of seizures in her or either side of our   families. Her seizures continued and she developed many health difficulties. Through it all she was a bright shining spirit and was up until her death.
 



My 16 month old niece had a chicken pox vaccine and another vaccine 2 weeks ago. Yesterday morning she had full blown seizures for 10 mins, a 104.5 fever, and she stopped breathing. My sister, thank God, works w/ disabled people and knows cpr. She was paralyzed and unresponsive for hours after the seizures. she is moving now and responsive but not talking like she was and screaming horribly, I have never heard a child's screams that were so horrible as that--she had me in tears. The baby is now in the hospital. The doctors cannot find anything wrong w/ her and no reason for the high fever. If anyone has any links they could share specifically on the chicken pox vaccine, seizures, and the fact that 2 weeks is not too long after to still have vaccine reactions I'd appreciate it. My sister is open-minded-she treated her 2 dogs kc w/ echinacea and vit c as I said rather than taking them to the vet for drugs and is not vaccinating for anything more than rabies. She is listening to me and is willing to look into how to avoid vaccines, etc. She has no idea where to start.  She's young, 24, and she and her husband just got transferred to Florida. Any help is appreciated.
 



Nobody can convince me that SIDS isn't vaccine murder. The medical examiners MUST know this. Babies have been dying of SIDS for over 50 years and the medical establishment doesn't seem a bit concerned. They have done no real scientific research to determine why a healthy baby would die. I believe it is because they KNOW it is the vaccines and they BELIEVE that we are all stupid, literally. Sadly, the evidence is that the majority of parents are that stupid. It is a CRIME that they continue to do this to our infants and get a way with it.
 



Another reason why most pediatricians would never admit the damage vaccine cause is that 50 percent of their revenue comes from the well child visits. Thats a fuuny name for them isn't it? I guess it does fit in as far as the child is brought in well and within days or weeks they end up fighting one infection after another. That brings us to the other 50% of their revenue. Treating all the sickness's that their poor little bodies cannot fight off because its too busy fighting the effects of toxic vaccines that they have been injected with. If thats the worst thing that happens to them then they are the lucky ones. So his attitude shouldn't surprise you at all.
 



My son was immunized in 2001 and has suffered a variety of different disabilities, if anyone knows more about post vaccination reactions and disablitating disorders as a result please let me know. A healthy 3yr old boy is now --disabled. Today he has an angionoma in his brain, a lesion in his right cerbellum; which affects his motor skills, ataxia, AD, hypotonia, asthma, allergies,speech difficulties, the list is endless.



Request continious room in care.  Which means the baby never leaves the room.  Especially if you have someone there with you (DH) .  I don't know how they limit you after a c-section.  If you have room in care, the docs and nurses have to do all bathing, monitoring, diaper changing, etc. right in your room.  I did this with my last baby (she is 4 months now) and she was never out of my sight.  The only trouble is you don't get any sleep (wake you for baby and of course yourself), but it was worth it for me. Also, I signed refusal forms ahead of time and the head nurse spoke to all of her staff about my request NOT to vax and NO  vit. K.  (I should have skipped the eye-junk as well.) And let them know that you will take legal action if they violate your rights.

I will post here soon about the development of my newest little one.   Just incredible when our children are free of those toxins that these gangsters want to inject deep into the bodies of our precious children.  You want a happy healthy child,do not vaccinate.  Vaccines and vit. K rob our children and us of a wonderful road of vibrant life because the ravages of these poisons can have subtle or dramatic effects on our health.

Stick to your guns(so to speak)and never let your guard down.  Good luck and congradulations on your precious little baby.

 



This is an urgent action alert. After just receiving yet ANOTHER call from a parent whose teenage child has received the meningococcal vaccine at school against their wishes, the AVN would like to urge all parents to keep their children home on vaccination days if they have chosen not to allow the vaccine. It is obvious that teachers, nurses and doctors are using this campaign to vaccinate everyone no matter what the wishes of their parents may be. They cannot be trusted and if you truly do not want your child to get this shot, you MUST either keep them home or go to school with them. It is the only way in which you can be sure they will be safe from unauthorised vaccines. If your school has not let you know when the vaccines will be administered, you must go to the school and INSIST that they tell you. We have heard straight from the horse's mouth that some schools are not revealing the day of the campaign because when they do, too many children stay home!

In addition, we have produced an A4 flyer on meningococcal vaccine. I can email a copy to anyone who wishes to have it. Just send me a private email to meryl@avn.org.au with the words "Meningococcal Flyer" in the subject line Please try and convince your school principals to send this information home along with the government propaganda to allow parents to make a free choice. Some principals are doing this - we need more.

Thanks,
Meryl
 



Hi! My name is XXXXX. I hae been married for 6 years. I am a mother of 3 boys and expecting a girl in November. I have decided to not finish vaccinating after doing some research about it! The ingredients alone scare me! I have a friend who's little girl was breastfed and not vaccinated and she has hardly ever been sick nor ever been on an antibiotic. My boys stay sick and my first was plaged with ear infections and on antibiotcs the entire first year of his life. Not off for more than 2 weeks at a time! It seems very interesting to me that all of the colds, flu's, ear infections, begin soon after they receive their first shots! My first was given Hep. B in the hospital when he was born. The hospital stopped giving it after birth so my other two did not get it until 2 months. My first has been plagued with stomach problems as well and I wonder if it is all contributed.  They all had allergies to milk and my middle who is 31/2 just went off of soy milk. They all have allergies to PCN and my middle also to keflex. I am interested to see if my fourth will be a different story without immunizations and being breastfed!

I love reading about everyones experiences and look forward to sharing my own.
Have a great day :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

 



Incidentally, while I was teaching, they came out with the Hep B vax. Special education itself was considered a "high-risk" occupation by the health department, so our district was required to pay for the vax if necessary...insurance would NOT cover it at the time, and with 3 shots it was quite an expense.  Well, even though I worked with middle school behavior disordered boys who got into fistfights almost DAILY, saw blood about once a month, and had kids from families where drug abuse/promiscuous sex was almost guaranteed, I was found to NOT be in a class A high risk group, therefore the district would NOT pay for my shots, and I didn't get them because I couldn't afford them (thank God).

Fast forward 10 years later, and I was told my NEWBORN INFANT, like all newborns, was at so much risk for Hep B that I had to jab him before he came home or I was a rotten mother...gives it a little perspective, doesn't it?
Cindy
 



She developed a seizure disorder after her 2nd round of shots. 1 1/2 years later she died during a seizure. The docs looked at all sorts of "rare disorders" but I believe she died from the not as rare as
they think disorder of Thimerosal poisoning.
 



On Christmas Eve I received a phone call on behalf of a baby that was born 1  MONTH PREMATURE that some MORON STILL GAVE THE HEP B VACCINE to.   Miraculously, this baby was healthy and breathing on its own doing great before the vaccine was given in spite of being born so early.  Needless to say, the baby started to turn yellow and stopped breathing within days of  the vaccine and is now on morphine because breathing tubes are going into its little lungs.  The mother had never had a vaccine in her life, but  because she was young, she was vulnerable to pressure and intimidation to giving the vaccine even though the family had expressed their concerns.  The  grandfather and parents are scared that the baby either may not survive or  will be left permanently injured.  They can't tell yet and the hospital has been secretive about what is going on.  They also want to know that if the baby doesn't make it, what tests can be done to prove the vaccine and  doctors killed the baby.  NO VAERS REPORTS or any acknowledgement of vaccine connection are being made by the attending doctors.   What they really need are some trustworthy doctors to talk to who can help figure out primarily what this little baby needs and then help the family formulate some questions to press these doctors at the hospital up against the wall.  I am leaving off details to protect the identity of the family. Please let me know any recommendations of doctors they could contact that would be able  to talk with regarding a baby this small.  Thank you for your assistance.
  This insanity has to stop.
 



Good for you!  My children were formally discharged from our ped last June.  We then had to find one (and we did) that respected our choices.  It's amazing how "intimidating" they try to be when you "choose" not to go with "their" program.  My ped became belligerent and berating raising her voice telling me she was a Phi Betta Kappa.  Who cares?  Keep reading, knowledge is power.  I feel badly for what you and your children have gone through but I hope you draw strength that there are those of us out her to support you who know the truth!  If vaccines are safe and really work than why does the government have to protect the vaccine manufacturers with the NVIC program?  Why can't we sue directly for damages?  I know this is illegal and unfortunately the vaccine manufacturers are protected by our government and they aren't being forced to do the studies necessary to prove that vaccines are damaging and useless.  Our children are being used as guinea pigs, well not mine anymore and not yours. 

What really ticks me off is the hepatitis B vaccine.  Babies (unless the mother is +) have no chance of contracting hepatitis B.  As an RN, I can't fathom why I did not research this and question why this was being injected into one day old infants.  Even worse (according to Dr. Stephanie Cave's book, "What your doctor many not tell you about children's vaccinations") P.120 Many parents would assume that vaccines undergo stringent, long-term testing before they are approved, but in actuality the information which has been made public regarding several vaccines has been not only extremely sparse but also gives rise to questions.
     When the FDA allowed the first recombinant hepatitis b vaccine to go on the market in 1986 less than 1,000 children were observed for 4 to 5 days after receiving their vaccination.  In it's 1993 product literature insert, Merck stated that  "In a group of studies, 1,636 doses of RECOMBIVAX HB (the Merck brand name of the hepatitis b vaccine) were administered to 653 healthy infants and children (up to 10 years of age) who were monitored for 5 days after each dose." (Keep in mind that for hepatitis b vaccine children get on average of 3 doses.)  If the chance that a certain adverse reaction will occur is 1 in 5,000, how can researchers detect it if they test only 653 children?  In addition reactions to vaccines often take weeks to occur, not five days, and some conditions, such as MS, autism, and learning disorders, may not become fully apparent for months.
     The lack of adequate testing of some vaccines has led to what a few experts say is a science experiment, with our children as the guinea pigs.")

Do you really think that if parents read the above information that any one of them would consent to this vaccine?  Heck, no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  They lie, intimidate, and threaten you.  Our drug companies have done a real good job.  They don't have a leg to stand on where your children are concerned, tell them to go to hell, it's your child and you can do whatever you choose!  I worked as an OB nurse for 13 years and it was amazing how the hospital acted like they "owned" those babies, keeping them away from the mothers!  That is outrageous!

Although I think Dr. Cave's book is a good starting point, I just can't fathom that after researching this book she can continue to vaccinate her patients (thimerosal or not)!  It's unbelievable.

I think my son 7 y.o. may have ADD.  I am taking him to see Dr. Sherri Tenpenny in January.  She has a successful program for treating vaccine damage, like ADD, autism, etc...but she doesn't take insurance and it is over $2,000.  I am doing it because he is worth every penny to me.  I didn't do my homework and let these nuts inject all of this crap into him.  I just hope his body can overcome what all of those vaccinations have done to him!  I hope they all go to hell, the doctors, nurses and drug companies and the government officials that protect them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stay Strong,

  




Had to respond to your comment below since my son also lost the ability to speak after the MMR.  He is not on the spectrum and I have been searching for others who experienced a loss of speech after the MMR without a  diagnosis of autism.  Did your child have any seizures?  Our son could only
 grunt for 14 months after the MMR and then when  he did start  babbling/talking again-- was eventually diagnosed with a severe phonological disorder.  He is recovering his speech and we are so grateful.   Did you file a case with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program?  We have, but no
 action has been taken yet.  Welcome to this list.
 



My daughter was speaking before her MMR- only a few words, but appropriate for a 12 month old.  She did and still does have severe seizures and lost most everything she had gained. How were you able to file a case with the board?  We tried and were told by the lawyer that Marissa was not injured "enough" because she was still able to nurse on her first ER trip.



"When he got his DTP he developed high fever,I had to put himin a cool bath to bring it down. He also started his high pitched unconsolable screaming that went on for anywhere from 20 min. to 2 hours. About 3 months later, he got his MMR. within 1 month, his eye contact was gone, no longer responded to the human voice, and preferred to be alone, also became very obsessive about riding his spring horse all hours of the day or night, he previously was afraid to even get on it!! This is just the tip of the iceberg, as I'm sure everyone understands.. "
 



I'll do it, too...my oldest son has food/environmental allergies, asthma, and a host of other labels and health problems that I believe originated in his full set of vaxes...I was a totally pro-vax mom until he reacted to his 4 and 6 month DPTs...that began my research.  Most striking to me was that his BEHAVIOR and TEMPERAMENT changed so drastically.  My second son, born only a year later, had all his shots also but never really reacted badly, although he does have some allergies and may get an ADD label someday if he can't smile someone out of it!  My 15 month old is as yet unvaxed...he is way ahead of the others on all development except speech, is rarely sick, and seems able at this point to tolerate all foods.

By the way, my family is very supportive of my decision not to vax, especially my mother-in-law...she taught 5th grade for over 30 years, and could see a huge difference in her students over the years regarding health and behavior.  Several of her siblings and one parent died of cancer, which had never before been in her family...she clearly remembers her father marching them all to the high school for the polio sugar cubes.  And she watched what happened to my son and READ everything I gave her...there is no doubt in her mind that vaccines are injuring children. 
 



None of my kids have been vaxed for whooping cough.  They all caught whooping cough last fall.  It was going around the community and all the neighborhood kids were fully vaxed but still got whooping cough.  In fact my unvaxed kids caught it from fully vaxed kids.  My kids did not get it as severe or as long as the vaxed kids.  I did NOT give any of my kids antibiotics either and they all recovered nicely. 

  After whooping cough went through the community I had to wonder what all the excitement is about.  In older children this is a relatively mild disease.  After whooping cough went through the house I was absolutely sure I made the right choice in not vaxing the kids.  Now that the older children have all had it, they won't bring it home to the baby and he too can catch it at an older age as nature intended.    It is a scary decision to vax or not to vax your child but with education you will feel more secure about making the right choices. After everything I have learned I am more afraid of the vaccine than the actual diseases now.
 




A friend of mine was given a rubella shot by her doctor, the day after her daughter was born.  She was breastfeeding and took her daughter home.  Two weeks later her daughter was admitted to NICU with encephalitis - she lapsed into a coma and was in a coma for 10 days. She is now almost 9 months old, and has not yet rolled over, and is unable to sit up.  This mother is searching for answers to help her baby recover and to find out why this happened. (I think it was caused by the Rubella shot - but I am not an expert) Any information and advice will be greatly appreciated.
 



Hello, I am new to this list and I guess this is as good a time as any to introduce myself...I am a SAHM of 4 children ages 3, 5, 10 and 14. married 16 years. My 10 year old daughter reacted to her 16 mos. shots. At 10 days post shot she had a high fever and what followed where 4 years of high pitch night screams, loss of motor control in all 4 limbs, stopped walking, monthly episodes of 24hr. high fevers...We use a Chiropractor for our family doctor, in fact I had just began working for one when she reacted. I have read more then most medical students or doctors ever will on vaccines. Tedd Koren is a great source for info, books, etc. Met him in person and love him! Daughter is doing well now, 5 years since her last episode with the fevers, Two sons have never been vaccinated (and over my dead body will I ever) and oldest daughter 14 has not had one since she was 2. All much healthier now, don't buy Tylenol at all, and I thank God for throw-up, diarrhea and fevers as I know their bodies are working right!
 



My son had eczema as an infant. He got the HepB his first day of life, which contained 12.5 mcg of mercury. I had to hold his hands in bed to keep him from scratching bloody holes in his face. The pediatrician's office vaccinated him on top of treating him for eczema (steroid creams), even at the same "well-baby" visit (well when you go in, sick when you come out). Eventually, we found out he had mercury toxicity, among other things. He has autism, diagnosed at 2.5 years old.

 



Hi all---I am in Montana, and had to put in my two cents worth: A huge sign at our local YMCA said "Last month I got the flu vaccine and I have been sick ever since."  That same week, I was in our local grocery store which just added a pharmacy, and saw an old friend  waiting there for service. She looked horrid, red-faced, shaking, wrapped up in her coat. When I got a chance I walked over near her; she was shaking so much her eyeballs seemed to be shaking too, and she could not focus on me...she said "My temp is 105....got the flu shot and the pneumonia shot yesterday....having bad reaction..." When I asked what they told her to do about it, she said they gave her Tylenol Cold medicine. I left there sooo glad we do not even mess around with any vaccines.

 



My son was diagnosed with rubella today.  My doctor was laughing because I was like "That's it???"  He has the rash and I didn't know what it was. 



I haven't been to the sight in a while(loss of internet usage for a while).  Anyway, I live in Southern Illinois and the Southern Illinois Regional Health Board decided one day last year that my son had to receive his vaccinations or he could not attend school.  My doctor wrote the proper letters out and they denied it and said that autism was not a good enough reason not to take his vaccinations.  I am not against vaccinations per say, but when you watched your child regress after his first set of MMR's -move hell or high water, my child wasn't taking them.  My son's doctor(DAN doctor) represented the correct paperwork diagnosing him with Immuno-defficiency and I presented the board with my options things went better.  I let them know that my son would attend public school and that if it took taking the vaccinations to get that we would consider it if they would sign papers that were drawn up by my attorney stating that if there was any regression in my son the state of Illinois would be liable for up to $1,000.000.  Heads did turn and they knew that I had them over a barrel.  A signature for a shot.  No brainer.  They found him unprotected but in compliance.  That means that if there is an outbreak he can't go to school for like a week.  Big woopee, he likes his daycare more than school anyway and it would give me a good excuse to take a small break from work.  What most officials do not realize is that we will fight for our kids no matter what it takes.  By the way, my doctor had already asked me that if they had denied him again, if I would be willing to public and to go as high in the government as I could go with this.  Of course I would have.  Nobody likes to set precident but it may come the time when they don't give in and one of us will have to fight
it.  I hope that it is not me, but if I have to I have to.  I'm just glad I won  my little battle and I hope you luck with yours.  By the way, I have a friend who didn't fight it for her little girl and she regressed even further after the vaccinations.

 



My daughter was born in 1978 and is in the first generation to receive the MMR which she did get at 15 months.  At age 6 she got a BAD case of the measles which the Ped confirmed.  He wasn't concerned and shrugged his shoulders when I asked how she could get the measles after receiving the MMR.  He said it happens.  Then at age 12 she got the MMR booster, then at 18 had a son who got the MMR and he has severe autism.  My point is that the MMR does not protect against measles infection.  There are many cases when there is a measles "breakout" and most of the children getting it were vaxed.

 



We took our 4 month old into the ER one night to make sure that she wasn't getting pneumonia.  If we hadn't known that she had whooping cough, the doctors never would have diagnosed that.  We had to literally teach the doctor about whooping cough.  Then he left us in the room for a half hour while he went and studied up on the issue. Funny how I had to CONVINCE the doctor of what my dd had.  He finally admitted that that may be what she had.  Then he wanted to run tests.  I told him no way since the tests aren't accurate after they start coughing so hard.  They are only accurate if you take it before you even know you have it!  Then he gave her some steroids, which I promptly threw in the garbage. I just wonder how many people he missing diagnosing before we came in and how many whooping cough cases he may have gotten right after we left!  It was just funny how he didn't believe us since she didn't have any other signs/ symptoms if she wasn't coughing at the time.  He just didn't know a thing about whooping cough, that's for sure.

 



Daughter, 12 yrs chronic ear infections normal speech until 18 mo then intelligible needed sp ther
swelling of hands/feet/mouth, now experiences chronic joint pain Son, 10 yrs Normal healthy devt, until 15mo. Seizure, high pitched screaming, total loss of speech, hand flapping, loss of eye contact, loss of affection, refuses to look at self in mirror (sign of abused child!). $1000s in sp ther, spec
schools and detox. Now he can pass for "normal" with lots of help from tutors, etc. But I will always look at him and curse the medical establishment for robbing him of what he could have been, what he was born to be....a healthy happy kid.
 



all I can tell you is to please please read all you can on the studies that are coming out.  I had heard a neighbor tell me her nephew has autism and was brought on my MMR vaccines. I asked the Dr and of course he just rolled his eyes and said that none of his patients had ever gotten autism from vaccines.  From that day forward we had a very strained relationship.  He pressured me on each visit to vaccinate my son with the MMR.  He had been fully vacc'd up until this time (15 mos). At that time he had a vocab of about 10 words, was walking fine and progressing just fine.  He had had problems since birth that now I believe to be from early vaccines. reflux from birth, he had quit breathing on my several times by the time he was 6 mos old, cried a lot, his left eye was turning in to name a few. 

I gave in and let them vac him with the MMR.  Shortly after he developed this weird peanut allergy that was terrible.  He had always eaten peanut products with no problem and then all of the sudden they were making him sick and giving him huge whelps. This ordeal lasted about 9 mos, today he eats peanut products without any problems.

After the 15 mo. booster he quit talking immediately and didn't utter a word for a full year.  When he did try to start talking it was very different than when he had been talking at the 15 mos time. We have been through countless Dr appts and all kinds of medical testing and have nothing to show for it.  His problem is in the processing of info...or so I think. He has received 18 mos of speech therapy to which I dont think has been a major help but I will do anything that will remotely help him.

He is almost 4 yrs now and is classified as mildly speech delayed (very very shy too).  He has come a long way in the past 2 years and I really believe it is from supplements, homeopathy and prayer.
 



Your Dh is correct, and that was my beef with the medical community 10 years ago. Back when I was new to all this and my son was 3, I took him to a Doctor who had a great reptation for diagnosing autism from "other" things. I took in my son, a breathing lump of humanity with no skills, and plopped him on the floor. The MD was super nice, asking questions, and gently touching my son. I was depressed, upset and broke, having just spent $40,000 at a childern hospital  only to be told my son had a neurological issue.

I took a tape player from my purse and turned it on and said this is my son last Christmas. The MD sits there listening to the happy sounds of the morning and finally ask, "So where is your son, I cannot hear him?" My son at the time buzzed and stimmed and this was what the MD was listening for. I said " NO the child TALKING is my son, hear him talk about the race car and how the cars go 'round and 'round.? Hear him open the package and say "It's a dumper, a dump truck." THAT IS MY SON!! The MD says "That cannot be this child, was is another child in your home?" I take out the matching photos of him opening the package with the dump truck, the photo of him holding a toy whale, something he talked in depth about on the tape. The MD lets out low whistle, and looks and me and says, if this is not staged, and I see no reason why you would do such a thing, then I cannot believe this child in my office and that child on the tape are the same. No wonder you are so upset. I have NO IDEA what cause this to happen.

I then ask point blank, "Is my son autistic?" and he answered, "This child in the office LOOKS autistic in many ways, but if he is the child on the tape, he CANNOT BE. Autism is from birth, not a regressive disorder. Something had happened...but I have no clue as to what is could be, I have never seen this before. That was 1995, back when we were first begining to hear of "regressive autism" The 1990's gave us the over dosing of mercury, and my son being born in 1992 was at the begining of this mess. The MD moved away before I learned of mercury poison, but wherever he is I am sure by now he has seen 100's of these kids.

Your child was born normal...never let anyone kid you on that issue. Now you fight back, that is all we can do. We are quickly growing into a group that cannot be denied. I do not know if you have heard of the gene study or not, but this year a group of mice studied with mercury turned autistic. Some did, some didn't....why a gene difference that allows the body to detox the mercury. Proof positive that some childern cannot handle the mercury burden.  Chin up, fight on, your son is young, there is time and so much more help out there today than when I started this journey. I'll keep you in my prayers.....

   



I use to take care of a child that had permanent brain damage and life-long seizures from the DTaP vaccine.  She was a normal child until she received the DTaP vaccine.  She will never have a normal life again due to the DTaP vaccine.  She was around 10 when I cared for her, but mentally she was the age of a 6 month old.  She could not speak, she  could not feed herself, when she would walk she would fall down constantly.  I would not recommend the DTaP vaccine.
 



XXXXX has whooping cough. She seems worse at night...much disturbed sleep from coughing and puking...the odd thing is in between episodes, she is perfectly normal....no fever...Dr XXXXXsaid her ears, throat and lungs are all clear, thank GOD....the cough is *very* scary...it looks like she is choking and there is nothing we can do about it...

You know I chose to let her have these shots and they DIDN'T work. We have chosen to start her on antibiotics so she can't pass it on to others.... Now my chest is very tickly....please pray I don't get it... Dr XXXX said even though she got the shots, they don't work for everyone....he didn't seem too surprised....she is on the antibiotic so she wont spread it to anyone else after 5 days, but it wont help her get over it any quicker--he said usually 3-7 weeks.... She did better last night--I got a humidifier at WM and she only woke twice coughing...(that I heard--I have been so tired I suppose it is possible for her to awaken and me not hear her)

Poor little thing, I want to cry every time she has an epidode--you know how they stare at you the whole time waiting for an answer and there is just nothing I can do.... I am coughing for sure now, and I just pray it won't go through the entire family!


 



My DH and I live in Australia and have 2 sons - DS1 is 3.5yo, DS2 is 23mo.

DS1 was vaccinated according to the schedule until 18mo, in spite of what I now believe to have been reactions to his 4mo vax (an hour or so after it, he developed a siezure type behaviour, which lasted - on and off - for several months, and he developed eczema at 5mo - this recurs each year around the same time).  Ever since, we have been trying to improve our diet, lifestyle etc to improve our (and especially his) health and natural immunity.

DS2 was vaccinated according to the schedule until 6mo, and then we "woke up" and decided we really needed to do some more research.

We have decided to indefinitely delay any further vaccinations, and do a lot more research



That was me as well. Yes I was that trusting of the medical community and ignorant about vaccinations. It took my son going into seizures THREE different times, THREE rounds of this, not three seizures, to realize that it was  vax related. I shudder to think what could have happened to him, and what might happen to him and his sister if they ever decide to get vaccinations. I consider myself lucky that the vaxes didn't kill him or put him in a life long coma. I can't believe how ignorant I was in retrospect. I didn't want to see it, so I didn't. Not until I had to.
 



My husband is studying human biology and anatomy.  He recently was reading about Tetanus.  He found that Tetanus is a disease that used to occur in horses, 100 years ago (before the age of cars).  Before we had cars, horses were the main form of transportation.  Their shoes were nailed to their hoofs and old nails could carry the tetanus if the horse had been infected.  If a person was pierced by an old nail that used to be in an infected horse, they can come down with tetanus.

Nowadays, in order to possibly contract tetanus, you would have to A: be pierced by a nail that was B: at one time attached to a horse who was C: infected with the tetanus virus.   According to this information, the odds of getting this disease today are so high that it's plain silly.  Yet the vaccine is still given regularly and again given every time someone gets cut with a piece of metal. 

Is there anyone that can verify that this information about Tetanus is correct?  and if it is, then I am absolutely stunned that about 90% of the medical professionals today are going around saying that you can get tetanus from being cut by metal... especially since my husband read this information in a standard textbook used by medical students.  Sheeesh!
 



"the maker of Claritin will pay the government $282 million for shorting Medicaid on rebates."
The government is trying to stop lawsuits for vaccine injured children, As this would "HURT" the pharmaceutical companies. Yet the government will sue because they were over charged! My son who is 18 years old has the mental age of a 6 month old infant who has suffered from thousands of seizures will never have justice for what he has been through!
 



Speaking of useless vaccines (aren't they all?)  I was trying to hold an intelligent conversation today with a freind who is terrified that her two year old son may have gotten Heb B if he'd not been vaccinated.  Of course, he has allergies, asthma and various other problems including chronic ear infections... but hey, he won't get Heb B right?  You know, because she may want to take him to a heroin clinic and have the patients bite him. 

(sorry, I can't help the sarcasm sometimes.  :)  )

 



I get so disgusted and sometimes I feel like I am part of this big conspiracy movie, just it is real and my son is the victim. Not a night goes by where I don't wake up from terrible nightmares about me holding my son down on the table while they inject him with mercury. I can't help but think to myself: "I should have questioned it - I should have done my research - I should have.... - I should have....."

 



Daniel had his MMR when he was 12 months old and lost all his hair. I'm convinced it was from his injection, and that changed my mind about vaccines.
 



I am so sad right now because my aunt just got back from a funeral for a beautiful 2-month-old girl. She was born perfectly healthy and went in for her 2-month appointment a few days ago. The mom didn't feel right about the shots, but the doctor told her that she had to do it. The little girl started screaming really badly as they gave her the shots and she died 5 minutes later in the mom's arms  I am just crushed for this family. She was a beautiful, healthy little girl, and now she's gone  Its so sad.
 



When my son reacted to the Prevnar vaccine, I called the pediatrician. He said it couldn't have been the Prevnar, it must have been tetanus, it is the most reactive vaccine. When I told him he received one shot, he was speechless for a few seconds, then said, "We will not give him that vaccine again."

They give so many vaccines at one time anymore, there is no way of knowing what causes a reaction. Then it makes it much easier not to report an adverse event for them.



Classical Homeopathy can help!

My daughter (2 years last June) is delayed in everything she does. She was full term c-section and is completely un-vaccinated.  Why the delays...?????  Because of all the toxic garbage she inharited
from ME! I have been FULLY VAX'd and on medications all my life, severe asthma, allergies and in my 20's after boosters to travel acquired HBP,  thyroid problems and the depression started to set in
as I couldn't take all those meds as they clouded my head and made me feel like I was 90!

Anyway, both my daughter and I have been seeing a classical homeopath for about a year.  We have both made AMAZAING progress.  She has nearly caught up in her speach and has finally started to run, etc.  The progress has been nothing short of a miracle!  As of June she wasn't saying much at all but in the last 4 months she's now singing the alphabet, Old McDonald, and many other songs, etc. She has literally caught up with her class (montessori daycare).

It took me YEARS to decide to finally try Homeopathy and now kick myself for not trying it then.  It's an amazing form of healthcare. Sheri offers a basic Homeopathy course that is a WONDERFUL
introduction for newbies.  It certainly made me feel much more informed as to the Homeopathic process and what to expect, etc.
Heidi

 



My daughter was vaccine injured and has severe seizures, profound mental and physical delays, etc.  She has not received a shot since the MMR at 13 months, when she went into an unstoppable status episode that lasted until her brain waves flatlined weeks later. 



My son doesnt have autism...

He is profoundly retarded, progressive microcephaly, spastic quad cp, lennox gastaut (severe seizure disorder) hes non verbal. I had his baby hair tested for mercury and it was 13.78mcg. This was for a 17lb infant.

The woman who told me to have his baby hair tested for mercury had gone through the vaccines courts and won her case her child had Lennox Gastaut also. Her child passed away two years ago at age 16.
 



At my sons school, There are the most critical sick children in my whole state, There was a flu outbreak at the school, how many children died...None.

My son did have the flu vaccine last year, He developed hand tremors shortly after, He still has these tremors (like Parkinson's disease) He will not be getting the flu vaccine this year or any other year! Oh, dear.  Is there a way you can see a homeopath.  This can very likely be reversed.

Another woman from one of my support groups, Her child is very sick with severe seizures, Hes been getting worse everyear...She was telling us that her child just lays there now in a full body tremor, This is not a seizure) This happened shortly after taking the flu vaccine. He can not even hold his head up any longer. I ask her if her son has ever had the flu vaccine, She said Yes hes been getting every year for the last 15 years, I told her about the mercury in the vaccines...She had no idea, And was very angry to find this out.

Oh, my god.
 



Yeah they tried to say the same in my case where my dh contracted  HIB just days after her DPT/HIB vaccine and was killed, but the whole medical staff said it was just a coincidence till we went to court then the judge told HHS attorney to go settle this with me and they didn't want this a precedence or something like that.



Hi my  name is XXXX and i live in XXXXX with my son who has various  difficulties. When he was 3 months old he had an anaphalactic shock  seconds after his dtp jab. At 3 he had an EEG done which showed slow spike  waves consistant with Angelman's Syndrome although he isn't Angelman's.  Now at aged 7 he is tactile defensive, hyperactive, still drools, learning  difficulties and is on the autistic spectrum. Any ideas as to whats going  on with him ?Response:I regret the problems with your boy. Unfortunately, vaccine damage  is rampant and authorities are in denial.



I'm not an expert or anything, but have a son who has behavioral issues which were caused by 17 anti-biotic courses between the age of 6months and 2.5 yrs old which destroyed his gut ... i.e. almost one course per month ... we have 90% managed to succeed in correcting this which was relatively easy as we were fortunate as he was not a severe case by any autistic standard I've read and read lots over the years and taken matters into my own hands since I can no longer trust doctors/G.P's. what I want to say, is don't give up and never say never ... I don't want to give you false hope, but the human body is an amazing machine and can self-correct/self-repair itself given the opportunity unfortunately sometimes the opportunity costs a lot of $$$, so it's catch22 ..if i can make some suggestions ...

1. read Willis' "Mastering Autism" book ... you can find it here and it's free to download and read as well as other papers.http://willis.ionablue.com or http://www.ionablue.com/willis/ you will require Adobe acrobat reader version 6 or later  

2. I highly recommend that you have a Hair Mineral Analysis done for your son. These are relatively cheap and give a very good indication as what is nutritionally going with your son especially the toxic metals if any ... and/or deficiencies  

3. another excellent source of information i find is http://www.autismwebsite.com/ari/treatment/treatment.htm

4. a keyword here as far as the brain is concerned is "sensory integration".  this can be as simple as listening to Mozart music or very complicated and expensive using EEG brainwave feedback exercises. however this would be the last thing on the list perhaps until all the other factors are looked into regarding metal toxicity, gut situation, nutrition, etc .. i could rant on but the above is possibly enough to get you started.



Brief history: My son got his preliminary diagnosis of ASD at 17 mos.  Normal development prior to 1st b-day, except never any pointing or words (did babble though).  First ear infection 1 week after 1st bday, which was also his MMR and Pox vac.  Antibiotics for 2 months, and none since.  I (mom) cannot make antibodies to Rubella, and was revaccinated twice--5 yrs prior and 2 days after my son's birth.  Did not nurse him, but I developed Lupus and chronic eye/sinus problems since the 2nd MMR (yes, I'm sure it was the cause!)



I don't know if vaccines hurt my boys or not. However, I would not vaccinate ever again.  I have watched the face of our DAN doctor and BIOSET practitioners and they have spoken of the horrors of vaccines--not the additives, but the vaccines themselves.  It is disgusting how they are made and what they are made of.  We live in California and I have had the opportunity to see other families who do not vaccinate.  Seeing their apple-cheeked, healthy, smart, well-behaved children makes me so jealous.  I just believe that the incidence of disease is so low, it does not make sense to inject yucky viruses into a beautiful healthy baby.  The benefits are so minimal.  I mean think about hepatitis.  Why do we put that crap into a beautiful newborn?  It is disgusting stuff.  Furthermore, you have to put more of that stuff in when the effects wear off. 

 



for us...all was the same EXCEPT the MMR.  No MMR for my second son  as thats when we lost the first.  Now second son is perfect (well, mild speech delay) but has been analyzed out the ying yang and no autism or any other related disorder.  For us I think it was some  combo of all that mercury (I had RhoGAM shots too..with both) and the MMR.  Somehow that live virus just sent him over the edge.  3rd baby has had no vaccines at all.
 
 



A tech. came over and took our blood.  Oddly enough, they suspected Rubella even though I had been vaccinated and my son had been vaccinated (I had all the records on hand by this time).
Now if the vaccination works why would they suspect rubella, especially in a child that had just been vaccinated?  Obviously not as confident in the vaccinations as they would like us to believe.

 



I am just about to start calculating my sons Thimerosal intake and would like to know how to calculate his DPT Hib intake.  Also, of course I had had many (multiple miscarriages) Rhogam shots, prior to his conception, during his gestation, and after his birth  And of course I had a mouth full of amalgam (now removed prior to the birth of my now 10 week old baby) Poor little number one guy, he didn't have a chance against all that  mercury.  Reading Evidence of Harm has at least given me new inspiration, if you haven't read it, get it! 
 



We are currently stepping up to chelating my 14 year old daughter that after her hep b series and DPT booster at 11, her health began to take a major downturn. She first became a viral type, 17 warts at one time on the soles of her feet several months after the vaccines.Then she got "toxic" looking, very puffy face she looked very inflamed. She became very tired, almost struck me as the
beginnings of chronic fatigue. Then she developed Raynauds, (cold bluish extremities) Then she developed severe mold, dust allergies. Then she developed exercise intolerance, she would be severely breathless playing sports/running. DAN said she had asthma induced by severe GI reflux. Now he has treated her with H2 gi meds, her asthmatic like symptoms are gone. Her warts are gone, the puffy look is gone, her color has returned. We are going to start chelating over the summer months. She said she feels like she did prior to the screwed up feelings after those damn shots she got at 11.



my husband got shingles 2 weeks after my son got his varicella vaccine. it was above his eye. he was in terrible pain for 2 weeks saying it was poison oak. I finally dragged him to the dermatologist who told him he could have lost his eye sight. it was in his optical nerve.
 



how can you tell if a child has regressed or not when most of the kids were given a Hepatitis B on
the first day of life?  Also, my son had a series of stepwise regressions rather than the one major regression that most people talk of after vaccination.  If he hadn't had subsequent regressions I
probably would have never thought about his fever/screaming post MMR, etc as a regression. 



I didn't give my second son any vaccines and yet he regressed  into  autism at 5 1/2 months after we had our carpets cleaned and he sucked on a costume jewelry bracelet. I had an MMR 6 months prior to  becoming pregnant. He did have some mild symptoms of autism prior to  5 1/2 months some repetitive movements with his hands/wrist and sensitive hearing (would cry at strange sounds). But at 5 1/2 months  he stopped responding to his name and started hand flapping flapping. I tracked Wakefield down at the Boston DAN to ask him if I  could have possibly given my son the measles virus through my breast  milk. I think he said he didn't know. I  also asked him if maybe  he
 got it from my first born son, who likely has measles encephalopy and measles in his gut. Maybe he is shedding live virus in his stool.



No MMR for my second son as thats when we lost the first.  Now second son is perfect (well, mild speech delay) but has been analyzed out the ying yang and no autism or any other related disorder.  For us I think it was some combo of all that mercury (I had RhoGAM shots too..with both) and the MMR.  Somehow that live virus just sent him over the edge.  3rd baby has had no vaccines at all.
 



That's what we did with XXXX's MMR. We questioned the vaccine and it's link to autism. A friend of a friend had a then 10 year old who regressed into severe autism after his vaccinations. Our doctor told us that there is no link and that the reason people associate the two is because autism just "naturally occurs" when babies are 18 months old and it happens to coincide with the time of the vaccine. Three people then held XXXX down, while he was screaming and crying, and injected him with the MMR and some other vaccines. He stopped talking the very next day and has never said another word. He's since been diagnosed with severe autism.

I feel like such an idiot. If only I knew then what I know now... I just trusted the doctor so much.... (He later told me that there's no way XXXX is autistic b/c XXXX loves me. That autistic children don't love their mothers"). For two years he told me that crap until the day I walked in waving his diagnosis. I swear to you that he did not say one word. Not even an apology. Or a sigh. Nothing. He just stood there staring at me stonefaced until I took my son and left. I pray that other parents are spared this agony. I'm just inching through the Kirby book b/c it makes me so mad. The more I find out, the angrier I get. Shoot, my blood is boiling right now - just remembering what happened.
 



BTW, I find the late booster regressions the most interesting because of the "theory" that 18 months is the age when most kids would regress anyway.  It just blows another hole in mainstream
medicines "theories".



He developed lupus around 15 years old, about a year after his first three dental amalgams : (
 



My younger son born in September 1996 I delayed vaccines. I did not start vaccinating him until he was 20 months old, skipped Hep B, most of the Pertussis and he never got his 2nd MMR. My younger son's diagnosis is Communications Disorder NOS and Sensory Integration Dysfunction with autistic traits. I fully believe my younger son would have had a full blown autism diagnosis had I
vaccinated him from birth. When he was born in 1996, all the literature I could find recommended delaying vaccines until the immune system was more mature, so that is what I did. I sure wish I had had the internet then, to know what I know now! By the way, when my younger son was getting evaluated (at age 4 1/2), I made a video montage of his life from birth to help the psychologist evaluate him. Our psychologist (who knew nothing about his vaccine schedule) told me after watching the video "I started seeing problems with him on the video at age 20 months". Hmmmm.
 



I tried to tell her mom not to get her vaccinated, but she wouldn't listen to me. She had that smart look to her. You know that one where the eyes just glow? They had her vaccinated and I watched it vanish. Nothing I could do, but shake my head.
 



I can't wait to see that in my grandbaby. And I know she is going to be smart too because we didn't get her vaccinated. Boy, I think back to what my son went through all because of their toxic trash they were shooting us his veins and it really makes me sick. What a sick society we live in! You just have to try not to think about. It's to late for him, his ruined.
 



I just want to thank you all for the support! My son is a newly diagnose in the spectrum. Searching i found out about mercury poisoning and remembered that he became fussy and showing signs of distress sometime in December 2002 when he was 6 months old, right after he  had been massively vaccinated (8 shots). I remember taking him to the pediatrician and complain that something was going wrong with him. The pediatrician did not find anything, thought that I was probably neurotic, and kept on poisoning him, with my permission. I had all the disease that they vaccinate kids for, and those disease don't kill anybody they last a single week and you will be immune forever. I feel guilty I allow this to happen.

 



I know how you feel. We trusted our Dr so much too. We asked about the whole autism-vaccine connection when Ryan was getting his vaccines. His Dr told us that there was no link. Study after study had been done and autism was genetic. I truly believed her and we went ahead with Ryan's vaccines. Big Mistake. I still do take my youngest son to this Dr and he gets no vaccines. She asks every time and we refuse every time. She doesn't really push the issue. She says she can't make us do it and continues to see our youngest son for his well baby visits. Besides the whole vaccine thing I do believe she is a good dr. She is at least good about not prescribing medications unless absolutely needed and was good about referring Ryan to early intervention when we first started noticing delays. I cringe every time I take one of my kids to the Dr and see a bunch of tiny innocent babies in the waiting room just knowing that they are going to be injected with a bunch of toxic garbage.
 



Their big lie about measles vaccine causing encephalitis only rarely. I cried when I read that. That's what they are going to tell worried parents who are not sure what to do but who trust them ...and the poor innocent babies.
 



Today has been one year since my son was injured from his last round of vaccines. I do not know why dates are important but I was dreading this day. It has been a very long year. I have to say after reading this email I have tears of joy. This started as a crazy idea after I testified on this issue. I realized  that it is going to take all of us coming together as one to make a difference. I have three boys who have been injured by vaccines. I may have missed the first two boy's reactions but I know without a doubt what happen to my son on April 28, 2004.
 




I just read on Dr. Mercola's site that the Hep B has mercury in it? Could this be correct? My friend's newborn has severe reflux, not putting her birth weight back on (4 weeks old), was sent to a neuro because of the reflux, rolling her eyes back, and startles easily. He said she is fine just her eyes are immature and to go to a GI. She didn't take my advice about her now two year old. She had the hep B at birth What is wrong with people!! People are brain washed by the MD's. I wish I would get through to just one person!!! It makes me so mad because I am so open minded. UGH just venting

 



I just hope people smarten up and stop getting them...even before I was anti-vaxx I was anti flu shot. My doc had all pregnant women be mandatorally vaxxed when I was pregnant with my second (or they had to leave the practice) and he's been labeled autistic. I think the flu shot played into that....
 



I'm just starting the bio med approach at 15 (almost 16). I stupidly accepted the PDD NOS NLD diagnosis and ran with it years ago. We've spent countless hours in different therapies, tutoring, LD schools (20,000/yr) etc., until this past year when I started looking at the underlying causes! I am totally convinced that my 15 yr old has chronic fatigue, IBS, sleep disturbances, NLD, etc., and it's all caused by mercury poisoning and way overuse of antibiotics in his infancy. I envy all you folks who have discovered the problem at 2 and 5 and 10 years of age! I just hope that we can get some results at this late stage!

 



Hi I have a child who is very ill. she is getting in home services from school at this time. My child was a A+ student, college bound, advance classes, popular with students and teachers. very happy. and very athletic. won many trophies, was very competitive in school and out of school. when entering the 8th grade they told me we had to give her the vaccine to enter J.H.S. We did . The school lost her injections records and we ended putting the shots 4x. She started getting Migraine head ache, Stomach pain and bloating stomach, developed sinus, and chronic diarrhea, she could not eat ,sleep, eventually she had to be send home for a home school services program, the only conclusion from the Doc was that she had developed acid reflux, and had irritable bowel syndrome she is till in the home. she is now 16 and still sick. it brakes my heart she has no school friends. and seem so sad at time I just don't know what else to do for my child I did not know about Mercury poisoning at that time. I believe my child has been mercury poisoned.



When they ask why my 2 year old did not get the HEP B vaccine, I say "because she is too young to have sex, I do not allow her to use IV heroin and we have no plans in the near future to travel to the Amazon basin for tattoos."  Unfortunately I did not know this information when her poor 4 year old brother was butchered by the HEP B vaccine.



FYI my 2 year-old NT daughter got eczema after a HIB (with a date of 1999 i.e., contained thimerosal) and got eczema a couple of months later.  I asked the doctor before he gave her the shot if it contained thimerosal and he said, "NO!"  He lied



Our niece received her first vaccines on a Friday in October 15 years ago.  Monday she had a near sids episode (they saved her), and she is living in a nursing home today in a vegetative state.  They call it a "near sids" episode, do you think it had anything to do with the vaccine? uhhhhhhhhhhh...yes......



I am also rh negative and received 2 Rhogam - I had about 7 amalgam fillings(I have removed them some years ago as I started having strange night tremors) - and I am a mother of 2 autistic children



am a Rhogam mom who has NO fillings at all.  My son is doing well with lots of chelation, but we are still not finished.  We have been chelating for 3 years now (low and slow).  We are almost finished and are embarking on HBOT this summer as well as some other alternative stuff.   I am pregnant with #2 and will not have Rhogam this time around as well as no vaccinations!  Wish us luck -- this is a real leap of faith as you all can imagine!
 



I only had one small amalgam.  My son regressed very late--after his kindergarten boosters.  I am rh negative--had rhogam with all three of my boys (I have one child with an ASD).
 



My son was mercury-injured primarily AFTER birth (although I was forced to have an MMR prior to becoming pg (fertility specialist refused to help us unless I got it) and then was forced to have an epidural (twins) during delivery), but the majority of his injury came from his vaccinations, and thus he had the typical regressive autism diagnosis, but what I've found is
that other people don't WANT to hear what we now know. After our son's diagnosis and my extensive research, I tried to tell everyone that would listen to question the "required" immunizations and get all the facts for themselves instead of believing all the hype the government wants us all to believe, and I just got accused of being a terrible mom for not wanting to vaccinate my kids. People apparently ENJOY having their heads in the sand, so until we can conclusively PROVE what caused our kids to get sick (with all of us  chelating and keeping documentation on the mercury we get out of these kids hopefully we can eventually prove that) they will continue to blindly follow what 99% of doctors still say, like a bunch of sheep. Sad, but true :(
 



I continually tell people we have medical documentation our son was vaccine damaged. I couple that with you'll have to step over my cold dead body before he ever gets another shot! Just fire back at them that hot lots of vaccines are noted but not pulled. So take your chances people, I'm not.For the real hard heads I query why a 2 day old baby has to have a
Hep B supposedly good for 7 years and only caught from sex or dirty needles. If you haven't read Evidence of Harm yet it is full of wonderful ammunition for good Moms like you.
 



 I am the mother of an ASD boy and recently I met a mother who has an 8 year old daughter who has severe sensory dysfunction. After her 2 year vaccines she could no longer tolerate wearing clothes and would throw them off. She could not tolerate clothes till age four plus. She is verbal and goes to public school with a classroom aide. I referred her Mom to
generation rescue, ARI, EOH and she i s totally on board. Her appointment with a DAN is not for 5 months. My 8 year old autistic son does not have sensory issues to this degree.



Did anyone see this story tonight?  2.5 minute story on how bad mercury coming from coal burning power plants is for children.  I guess injecting it into a baby or pregnant mom is okay though. 
 



No one really understands the heartache that you go through as a parent. That I inadvertently caused this damage due to the trust I placed in our medical establishments and their regulations and requirements.  Some days I'm so angry I don't know what to do.
 



Our former VBA therapist told me that she had a theory that the autism epidemic came in part from the "college boom" where more people were going to college and the parents were having to get all of these boosters. Not everyone goes to the trouble of keeping records and just gets revaccinated.



My son is a newly diagnose in the spectrum. Searching i found out about mercury poisoning
and remembered that he became fussy and showing signs of distress sometime  when he was 6 months old, right after he had been massively vaccinated (8 shots). I remember taking him to the pediatrician and complain that something was going wrong with him. The pediatrician did not find anything, thought that I was probably neurotic, and kept on poisoning him, with my permission. I had all the disease that they vaccinate kids for, and those disease don't kill anybody they last a single week and you will be immune forever. I feel guilty I allowed this to happen. I am determined to cure my child.
 



My son with autism (8 yo) has been vaccinated thru his two year old shots. My  daughter (5yo) has not been vaccinated at all. Their baby books are identical as far as developmental milestones go up until my son received a series of five shots at once at 19 months.



Why do you think your son lost his language at 7?  Was this after any vaccines?

Looking back, it wasn't a sudden regression. Knowing what I do now, I'm sure it was a combination of DPT shot at 5 and work done on our house (we live in a historic house, so most likely lead paint).



So I would just steer clear of them completely. My youngest is not vaxxed and is healthy and developing on track. There is no way I will let a needle come near him and risk having him taken from me as my other boys were.
 



 I had mercury-free Rho Gam, but 5 mercury-full shots with another pregnancy. I've got a mouth full of metal, he was fully vaccinated, I used the wrong shampoo and ate tuna, it goes on and on...I'm sure both he and I are fully heavy metal toxic. He was clearly different from
birth. He's now 2 1/2.

My heart nearly exploded when I watched my next son exhibited the more typical normal start and decline into autism at twelve months of age. As he is only 11 months older than my other son, we didn't realize that the vaccines were such a big part of this picture. My little guy
received full vaccinations until he was 9 months old. We finally put an end to the madness and stopped the shots for both.

Although the gov't recommended the end of thimerosal-laden shots in 1999 and got more serious about it in 2001, both of my boys (born in 2002 and 2003) received shots full of mercury. I got the lot numbers and found several of them were made in 1998!!! I am so mad. I even had the Thimerosal conversation with my doctor who adamantly asserted that there was no vaccine-autism connection. XXXXXis now 1 1/2, and he is chelating. He's been gf/cf and seeing DAN! docs since he was 12 months old. You are not alone.

 



PS My daughter who is 14 went to the doctor (A NEW ONE!!) for a check-up last month. The nurse tried to give her a tetanus shot full of mercury. I said NO WAY! Then she brought out a single dose vial and said they were phasing out the older kind; would we like this one with less mercury? THE THIMEROSAL IS STILL OUT THERE...ALL OVER THE PLACE!



My heart nearly exploded when I watched my next son exhibited the more typical normal start and decline into autism at twelve months of age.  As he is only 11 months older than my other son, we didn't realize that the vaccines were such a big part of this picture.  My little guy received full vaccinations until he was 9 months old.  We finally put an end to the madness and stopped the shots for both. 
 



He received the Hep-B vaccine after being in this world only two hours. I don’t think we ever really got to know who he was.



My parents just told me about a friend of theirs whose 13yo grandaughter just began having severe OCD, irrational fears, whithdrawing from people, etc... (sound familiar - arrrrgh!). 
Apparently, this all happened out of the blue.   I don't know when this girl had her last vaccs., but it wouldn't surprise me if it was recently :-(.
 



A little girl in my 2 year old daughter's  per-school died last week -- just a few days shy of her second birthday. She was fully vaccinated -- including two flu shots last year. She never recovered after the first flu shot and still the doctor insisted she have the second shot. She got sicker and sicker and was finally diagnosed with Type I diabetes around 14 months of age. The doctors said it was hereditary, even though no one in her extended family has diabetes -- one grandmother has arthritis.

While it is unlikely that two doses of the flu shot could bring on Type I diabetes ... I would think that 3 DTaP, 3 polio, 4 HIB, 3 HEP B, 4 Prevnar, 2 influenza (am I missing anything), MMR, Variacella all before 14 months of age -- laced with 50 micrograms of mercury from her flu shots probably could trigger all kinds of catastrophic reactions.

The death of these kids is tragic -- and I believe that they would have had a far better chance had their little bodies not been filled with all that crap at such an early age.

Of the 18 kids in my daughter's mommy and me preschool class, 6 are either not vaccinated or "under vaccinated." The word is getting out -- and now one of the mother's from the other camp just asked to borrow one of my 10 copies of "What Your Doctor may Not Tell You about Vaccines."
 



I have often thought of this as well, medical coverage for all the GI issues, neuro's yeast infections, ear infections, allergists, supplements, compounded meds ect,,,,,,,add up quick state wide, therapy, equipment the money in SSI disability that takes away from some retired person who worked so hard to have money there when they retired were robed of it because of stuff in mandatory shots given to my son.



When my daughter was an infant she was having seizures, but our then pediatrician kept telling us she wasn't (they were VERY mild). Looking back, we feel the seizures occured around the times of her vaccinations.  At least the last time she was vaccinated, around 15-
18 mo's we know she threw a mild seizure 2 days later. 
 



As heart breaking as it is, my neighbor just called and said her 5 yr old son has a fever of 104 degrees and was throwing up.  The day after his DTAP and IPV vaccine shot.  (Of course the doctor claims it's all "coincidental".)  I am physically ill to hear this, as I know of many stories of how these type of reaction has been tragic.  



They poisoned my baby and REQUIRED by law that I do so ...all the while mandateing that I sign off on all the (supposed...miniscule) risks and scrambling to pass legislation to protect them from litigation and leaving my baby drooling on the floor with me no help  desperate and grieving.
 



you won't believe who called us today.........CDC

hey we filed our VAERS yesterday on 4 batches that we had clear reactions to and in 3 where notes in the ER reports on it being vaccination reactions, and today the VAERS office called me for more details and asked if we would be willing to send testing documentation and med records on all the reactions........is this normal?  did others get contacted?  they told me that they are closely monitoring and looking into reactions right now, that they are of high interest and that every case is investigated to see if there really are connected to vaccination reactions.  I told them that I looked up my child lot numbers on line to find 5 children died in 24 hours (one 6 hours after injection) and another in 13 days after the same vaccinations my son got,  one child in the same state got the same one my son did was hospitalized for 14 days with a blood infection and had to have 4 toes removed from it.  another got a bacteria infection in there spinal fluid.  Another lung issues, several hospital over stays, close to a hundred kids developing seizures, vomiting, fevers, knots in legs and arms and hive type reactions.  and the list goes on.  I told her my son lost motor skills, language and now has a autism dx after his 12 month old vaccinations.  she said that 9 times out of 10 when deaths are investigated or sickness vaccinations are ruled out as the source,  she told me  5 deaths was a small number in the thousands that get vaccinations.  but she misses the point. MOST WERE WITH IN 24 HOURS.  HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY BE COINCIDENCE.  2ND IT WOULDN'T BE IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF KIDS VACCINATED IT WOULD BE ONLY THE NUMBER THAT GET THAT LOT NUMBER GROUP.  HOW MANY VACCINATIONS COME OUT OF ONE LOT  WHAT KIND OF PERCENTAGE DOES THAT LEAVE. 3RD I ASKED HER WHY THEY DON'T RECALL LOTS THAT KILL KIDS WHEN IF A TOY IS A CHOKING HAZARD IT IS RECALLED OR REPLACED YET THEY AREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THAT,  THAT IS WHEN SHE STARTED IN WITH HOW SMALL A NUMBER THAT IS.  I TOLD HER THAT I AT THE TIME MY CHILD WAS DXED WITH AUTISM AND HOW SEVERE HE WAS I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED HIM DEAD THEN SEE MY PREVIOUSLY NORMAL CHILD BE AS HE WAS, SICK, NOT ABLE TO FUNCTION AND COMMUNICATE KNOWING HE WOULD BE INSTITUTIONALIZED FOR LIFE AND neither he or us NEVER HAVE A FUTURE,  THE CONSTANT REMINDER IN MY FACE OF THE DAMAGE THEY TOLD ME I NEEDED TO ENDOW ON MY CHILD AS A GOOD MOM, INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO GRIEVE AND TRY AND MOVE ON WITH SOME HAPPINESS AT SOME POINT KNOWING THERE IS NOTHING MORE I CAN DO OR CHANGE.   PRAISE GOD OF BIOMEDICAL AND READING THAT THINGS ARE FIXABLE AND I DIDN'T LEAVE THE NEURO THINKING NOTHING COULD GET BETTER AS HE SAID

I haven't yet found a lawyer with our sons vaccination case.



Pardon my language but f*ck Eli Lilly with a hot iron. There is nothing they can do to ever redeem themselves from what they have done. So they are giving away 100k....they owe more than that to EVERY one of us to pay for the therapies our children need from their poison.
 



My daughter is not autistic (we are VERY lucky our first born happened to be a girl), but she has speech apraxia, possible ADHD, some sensory integration disorder, and at age 4 3/4 is still working on potty training. But by being open to fact that we were unwitting accomplices
in her injuries, we have been able to give her effective treatments. Hopefully there will be little long term damage. I cry for all those who kids have been absolutely destroyed by the
carelessness of pharmaceutical companies.
 



I have a child with complete ACC. Im sure you have already been asked about this! I have always wondered why there are many people with acc that have normal function and IQs and some don't? Also, why it is typical for seizures to start around 2 years old?  Until now, we just accepted this.  I know this is completely out there to most and you have probably been asked about this before. But we don't see it this way anymore: About 3 months. ago, our son had an acute allergic reaction to vaccines. He has been ill with severe GI issues. Before, it was only constipation. but now I believe it might have been caused from vaccines) We are seeing gastro for this!  Anyways, I have been crash coursing about his symptoms and vaccine side effects. I am so surprised as to what I have learned! When you see and compare ACC medical issues with vaccine issues, they are so similar!  Yes, he has had past vaccines and no serious reaction; but was hospitalized for seizure didn't realize this at the time) , but it seemed  to be after vaccines. And from what I understand each time a child is vaccinated , each reaction gets worse with children that are considered high risk. Vaccine seizures seem to start between 15mths and 2 years. This is typical for ACC. I have discovered the issues on vaccines is very controversial, bitter, and just out right an impossible debate. But with having the situation happen to us, we know different! I'm sure this is not the case for all ACC medical issues, but feel it is for some, including my son.

 



Montel's show was very good.  The only thing he should have asked the NAAR gentleman in terms of vaccinating his daughter was 1.  Did he make sure that it was mercury free or did it not matter to him.? 2.  His daughter has just begun the vaccination schedule; what would he do IF after the full set of vaccines  he begins to see her failing to reach developmental milestones and begins to shutdown from the world, will he then say it's GENETIC?  I bet he would change his tune then. (Certainly, I would not wish our nightmare on anyone).



I have been learning all I can about the vaccination worries.  However, I wasn't aware of it before and my daughter has had all her shots through 6 months.and a flu shot.  All this makes me sick to think I could have done this to her. 
 



As a mother of two  children--one who has autism, I was horrified by the regression of my
perfectly normal son.
 



Please, God, open the eyes of people and motivate them to do their own research.  Autism is costing over $90 billion a year - more than the war - and projected to cost $200-300 billion by 2013...Somebody has got to listen.
 



I have felt as sad, outraged, horrified, mad, bewildered, shocked, angry, horrified and every other  crazy emotion knowing many, many individuals intentionally did this to my child and MILLIONS of others. I didn't sleep many nights so outraged.



I just got my sons evaluation report and am not happy with one of the summary items they wrote (this after a comment in his initial eval report).

It says the following:

"Autism is a neurogenetic syndrome, in other words, something happened very early either to Matthew's chromosomes, or his early brain development, the first nine to eleven weeks of gestation. His symptoms became noticeable when he was older, and are not related to the vaccines he received. As a result, he should continue to receive regular immunizations. There are many proposed treatments for children with autism such as auditory training, facilitated communication, herbal remedies, chelation therapy, and high dose vitamin therapy. Many have little science research to support them. Some have been proven to be not helpful and some can be harmful. It is important to review the literature and talk with your physician and other professionals before trying an alternative approach."

Pardon my language, but can I tell you how pissed I am at this? Who the hell do they think they are? telling me when he became autistic. How the f*ck do they know it happened between 9-11 weeks gestation?!? and why on earth did he develop normally until his 12 month vaccines? Screw them. I cannot even believe that they can say this to me. And I am sick at thinking of the parents who read this tripe and believe it and continue to vax while their children grow progressively worse!

I don't even know what to do about this. Should I leave it alone and wait for the evidence to prove them wrong and let them shoot themselves in the foot? Should I wait and sue the pants off them for lying to me when my kids recover (I hope and pray) after being chelated?

I am just annoyed beyond belief. I have an eval scheduled for my oldest son with these same idiots so he can "get a diagnosis and receive therapy"  without it I will be forced to pay out of pocket for his therapy. But I don't know if I can look at these people again without having a fit. I can tell you what shirt I will be wearing if I go though my one that says "My child was poisoned by the mercury in vaccines"

Anyone else dealing with this up close and personal like this? I know the media is doing this to us continually but are you seeing this crap in your own children's evals?!?

 



I see all these people who have damaged children and have no idea that vaccines could have caused it. I am starting to be the "know all" person everyone talks to now. I have people forwarding friends emails to me, people talking to me about concerns because they have never heard of this connection. THAT is the big problem. AT THE VERY LEAST parents should know there is evidence to point to a connection so they can make an educated choice.....my mom works for a doctors office and frequently has people say "wow, I would really rather not vaccinate but I have to so I will" and she always tells them "no you do not, you are the parent you make the decisions, if you don't want to vax you can get a religious exemption and your child will still be able to go to school, ect" she has had SO many people change their minds when they heard this, they totally believed they had no rights to even make this decision! That is a crime! so many children being harmed
by this while well meaning parents do what they think they "have to do." That's my biggest beef in all of this.

I guess as soon as you realize this reality, the coverup and the truth of it all there is no choice but to become an activist in it all huh? I feel like everything I knew and believed in came into question when I realized the truth. I was a big political person before all this and now I have no faith left in either party. I see what has happend and I no longer have any faith in big medicine. I don't think I will ever see an M.D. again. I'll take my D.O. (who is our familiy doc and believe it or not does support our choice to chelate!) or my naturopath (DAN! doc) any day....

 



There is great power in numbers. And what is the reason no one wants to accept responsibility for this?????(mercury poisoning)  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Too bad we can't hurt them in the pocket. Lord knows they are financially draining us with what they have done.



I struggle with the same issue of how, and when, to tell my 8-year old son why he has to take over 20 pills a day. When he asks now, we simply say it's for his allergies. The truth is it's to reduce the inflammation in his brain (he produces antibodies to his own brain) and gut and to help his impaired methylation and detoxification systems.  I have yet to figure out how to tell him that our government mandated vaccines overtaxed his system with mercury and
other toxins that caused this to happen to him. Not only did I, as his parent, harm him, but our doctors, HMO and government deny any wrongdoing. What lessons will this teach him as he becomes old enough to understand?
 



My heart just breaks for all of our kids who are so POISONED!  It's just sickening, isn't it?  I seriously have yet to see ONE hair test higher than XXXX's...not in any presentations at the A-1 conf, not in Andy Cutler's Counting Rules, nowhere.  If I didn't have to expend so much energy righting the wrong of these **** inoculations I would probably be an angry, bitter wreck...the only thing worse than a scorned woman is a scorned Mother!



Think about it, how does a parent know what their child was actually born like when even before they come home they have been given a vaccine...I really don't think they need to be given so early.  Let the parent/child get home and establish a baseline of health first...really, not many children are at risk to develop hepatitis on the ride home!!



Two flu shots threw my son over the edge.  He had collected over 300mg of Thimerosal from vaccines.  It made me blind with madness and sadness but you have to move forward, educate yourself and concentrate on your child, NEVER GIVE UP HOPE.



"Is born with the disability", or is given it shortly after birth...hmm hep B vaccine is given at birth.



When I started putting all my dots together and came to realize that my son’s autism is due to the vaccines he had as an infant, then the MMR and finally the flu shot, I almost had a heart attack. I literally had to take myself into the emergency room claiming chest pain. They told me it was stress and sent me home with a prescription that I never took.  My advice is educate yourself as much as you can.



I am so very saddened in that I was a compliant mommy and continued to vaccinate and believed everyone when they said the link had been disproved. 



My husband and I are torn, my son began to regress around a year, but got flu shots at 14 and 16 months and totally regressed from them.



The exact same kind of reaction detailed in the book happened to my son XXXX 25, who has autism, the night of his MMR shot at age 14 months.  We were in Tampa, FL.  He had a 105 degree temperature; convulsions, seizures and a week-long hospitalization where the only "treatment" was Tylenol given by the same pediatricians who had given him the shot.  As I said before, not until I attended the Congressional vaccine hearings described in David Kirby's book did I put 2+2 together.
 



Hi, I am from British Columbia and the Canadian Vaccination Schedule allows for the second MMR shot to be given at either 18 months or between 4-6 years of age.  This just doesn't make any sense to me.  My son unfortunately got his at 18 months and is now autistic.  I am so mad I could scream.

I actually just called the pediatricians office to talk to a nurse and I told her that I was online (didn't mention the DAN! Dr.) and read that the 2nd MMR shouldn't be given until 4-6 yrs. of age, why did mine get it at 18 mos? She said "because that's how our Dr.'s choose to give it, then they'll have less to get at Kindergarten". I just feel sick to my stomach about the whole thing.
 



Dr. Mark Geier's theory is that testosterone enhances the damaging effects of mercury, and that estrogen can protect against the damaging effects of mercury.  Some females have more testosterone in their bodies than most so maybe that is why some girls are autistic. If he is right, and I think he is, then IT IS THE VACCINES that cause autism.
 



On 8-10-05, we met with the neuropsych for a clinical evaluation for our 15 month old twins. They now have the clinical DX of Autism Spectrum Disorder. We already knew within our hearts what was going on but to hear it from a clinical perspective was extremely hard and heart wrenching. We can ONLY move forward and find the best bio-medical treatment for our guys and hope and pray that they recover from the mercury poisoning. God did not make all of these sick children our lousy government did.
 



I wish someone had asked me these questions 3 years ago - "You know it went in, but are you sure it came out?  If we were talking about lead and toothpaste what would you do?"  By 4 months old, my son had been injected with over 100 micrograms of mercury on four separate days.  Yet I still hear, "there is no scientific evidence that thimerosal causes autism." - insert the name of any CDC official.  My response to that is, "By definition, mercury causes mercury poisoning. 
 



I began having Rheumatoid arthritis symptoms not long after getting my one and only flu shot. It was after that shot, after XXXX's many shots that caused him to spiral into autism that I learned of the connection. Cancer is thought to be similar to autoimmunity, as is asthma, and other diseases and conditions. There are those who think autism is a demyelization disease, the body attacks the myelin in the brain, as is MS being a demyelization disease. If we lay persons can see this, why can't the notable health officials? I still think it is because they don't give a d---! I never use that word, by the way, but it is the only word that fits in this situation!



Perhaps it is ,but when I saw that little one and read her story..normal until 8 months..it just struck a cord in me.My DD now almost 12 was fine until 15 month vaccs.Then she was gone.She is better at times,and is now considered HFA,but continues periodic regressions
 



The CDC, FDA, and AAP and Pharma have butchered countless children -- including one of mine.  In sufficient quantities, thimerosal will kill every living creature on this planet.  I never meant to imply ASD is a genetic epidemic.  I am just saying that blondes, red heads and oldest kids appear to be over-represented.  Look at the recovered kids video.  Then look at the audience at all of those blonde heads.  I am brunette but both of my kids are blonde.

Just recently I visited three different classrooms for ASD kids ages 3 and 4.  The blondes are over represented.  I do not think you can deny that.  Maybe there is something to the fact blondes are slightly more sensitive to mercury -- but everyone has a toxic tipping point.  My son's was low.  He started reacting from the first DTaP at three months.  Is it because he got the bottom of the vile (mercury sinks to the bottom) or is he more sensitive than the next kid.  The answer is probably both are true.

About 10 years ago I tried to have my hair permed for the first time.  After the dresser applied the stuff I let out a "high pitched scream".  It was as though I were being tortured.  The hair dresser said, well some people react -- but no one like you.  I saved the box.  Guess what -- mercury was an ingredient -- I forget the exact name.  So there you have it.  I was more sensitive than most.  And it did feel like my head was being eaten alive.  The one time I tried suave, I broke out in open sores all over my head.  My husband used with no problem.  I was just more sensitive.  And guess what, someone on this list posted a while back that one of its ingredients is mercury.
 



My last "known" mercury exposure was a flu shot I got three years before XXX was born.  My uncle was a doctor and used to provide flu shots for the family when the rest of the country was fearing shortages.  Every year we would get together for flu shot parties.  One year it appeared that there would not be enough serum in the vial for everyone in my extended family to get the shot.  So I said it was okay and I would forgo the shot.  But when he got to the end of the vial, he said guess what, "We have enough for you.!"  I said great, and he walked over to me without having shaken the vial even once and injected it into my arm.  My uncle is probably turning over in his grave.  He died two years ago of a bad fall after being diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's.

By the end of that week after that shot, I was in the hospital with respiratory distress.  That was the beginning of my chronic asthma (which almost disappeared with the birth of my son) and bouts with influenza.  I also secretly stopped getting flu shots.  No everyone in my family knows and all but another younger MD has stopped getting flu shots.  He insists thimerasol is the safe kind of mercury.

So there you may have another risk factor of why one twin can be affected and one not when they received the same shots.  Mercury sinks to the bottom of the vial, depending on how well the nurse remembers to shake it up and how long she waits to pour it.  So the amount of mercury any one person gets (and hence the risk for ASD) can also depend on whether you got the top or bottom of the vial and how well the nurse shook it.  One twin could get the bottom of one vial (which the nurse then throws out) and the next twin gets the top of the next vial.

I am starting the process of chelating.  I did a DMSA challenge test and my mercury score was off the charts.  I had a mercury filling removed by a dentist last year (I got the message about going to a special dentist one day too late) and have had a weird arthritis in my left arm ever since.  It is sort of a combination of pain and numbness. The doctor wants me to do GFCF -- that will be the hardest part. I will drop it now.  I believe that I am allergic to thimerasol -- more so than most.  But everyone has a toxic tipping point.
 



We've decided that vaccinating isn't worth the risks, no matter what the CDC says!
 



I found over 400 families where the oldest child was vaccinated and diagnosed with ASD and the younger sibling was completely unvaccinated.  Of the 400 families, only two had ASD children and  both of those were less severe than full blown autism.  To me that  says autism is hereditary only when all children are vaccinated.  Remove the thimerasol, and you lose the hereditary link. 



I'm freaking out.  On a recent post I found the CDC's website listing their ingredients by manufacturers.  Sure enough, my son's vaccine makers (Pediarix) put thimerosal in all of his shots.  He got nine, not including my RhoGam before he was six months old.  Is this typical of everyone's exp?  I just think this is so high...I mean, I thought maybe one or two of them did it...but nine before six months?  He didn't even have a chance.  I am just so mad.  Just wondering if this is an excessive amount, or what.  I was so sure we were going to be able to
get it all out, he's only 2.4...but with this much I am starting to doubt myself. 



I had not heard of the mmrv combination and just thought to myself about how my son regressed after his single varicella shot--I could not imagine what would have happened had it been an mmrv...XXX wrote:  Makes me want to vomit. That combo was what did my son in, day 14 and day 41 seizures erupted. But they don't study beyond day 42. On day 100 my son was spinning in circles lost most of his vocabulary, wasting away in front of my eyes, F.. Merck.---
 



You're right about that. I was tested before our child received the Hep B at birth and when it was found that I was negative, we thought we didn't have to worry b/c she didn't need the vaccine. WRONG. They gave it to her when she was out of the room AND without our signature on the consent form and well....you know how our story ends.....12 years later I have a neurologically damaged child with ASD
 



The real kicker is the MMR vaccine I got right before I left the hospital after having XXX.  Breastfed...you know the rest.  The MMR I DO blame for my son's Autism.  No obvious regression-never quite normal.   SIGH
 



Hi everyone,

I have a proposal for anyone interested. I'm trying to convince someone of the whole autism-mercury connection...who happens to be a doctor. I've also been interested in this myself, and am considering putting this together in some sort of a "cook book" form for the rally.

I'd like to know the "recipe" of your child's autism. For example, My daughter's would be something like this.

Eve
Born 3-27-01
Healthy Baby Girl

Ingredients:

1 Healthy Baby Girl
4 Mercury Laden Vaccines
10 Rounds Antibiotics (Augmentin, Amoxicillian, Cipro and Zithromax)
12 Mercury Amalgams in Mother's mouth

Directions:
Take 1 Healthy Baby Girl, nurtured in womb and breastfed by mother with amalgams. Mix. Take baby girl, inject with mercury-laden vaccines. Add 10 round of antibotics, while folding in all regularly scheduled vaccines when on said antibiotics. Wait 24 months.

Yields:
1 very unhealthy baby girl who gets sick every 3 weeks. Will also have a lack of expressive or receptive speech, lack of abstract thought, staring spells, hand biting, gastrointestinal problems, eczema, transitioning problems, toe walking, aggression, and night waking. Possible PDD-NOS, moderate verbal apraxia diagnosis.

Any cooperation would be appreciated!
 



He was a normally developing little boy, full of life,humor, intelligence, and good health, until he was bombarded with vaccines loaded with mercury, at which time he descended into what has been labeled as autism. He lost his personality...his bright laughing eyes...his impish teasing and pranks...all gone.  By using biomedical interventions, I have been able to bring some of what was lost back. My son had unrelenting, explosive, foul smelling diarrhea that would cause him to scream in pain because it made his little bottom so raw it would bleed.  I treated that medical issue, and lo and behold, he stopped walking on his toes and flapping his hands. Was I trying to stop him from walking on his toes and flapping his hands? No! I was trying to end his gastrointestinal suffering. My son is 13. I doubt seriously if he is going to "recover". I am at peace with that.  But I am not at peace with the fact that this was all preventable, that it has been promoted and covered up by my government, and that other children will suffer, as my son has, if it is not stopped.



Mercury is not the only thing to worry about.Vaccines had live viruses that are known to trigger seizures.My son had a mini-seizure 1 month after mmr, 10 days after dpt and then grandmal 1 month after varicella.I was in denial about the first 2 but when the grandmal came there was no more denial.



My child assumed all of the neurological risk, my husband and me > assumed financial risk, and my family "lost" emotionally, financially, etc etc etc, when we signed the form and held our child down for those shots. Our health insurance company sent us vaccination reminder cards--but  they failed to tell us they wouldn't help us undo the damage if our child was injured.  They've refused to help pay for ABA or speech therapy or vision therapy or biomedical treatment and offer very  little OT or chiropractic.  We didn't know our school district offered something more like special ed daycare (2.5 hours a WEEK of services in the birth-to-three program, and 15 hours a week from ages 3-6).  And NO ABA, NO  Floortime, NO RDI...no best practices at all. We didn't know we wouldn't qualify for assistance of any kind...no social security, no respite, nothing. If the medical profession, the pharmaceutical companies, our behavioral and health insurance, plus society (from taxes for programs  to help our kids) would bear some of the risk, I think the emphasis on "lets vaccinate regardless" would change. And if someone had spelled out exactly what the risks were to my  children and to our family, I WOULD HAVE REFUSED EVERY SINGLE VACCINATION.
 



A little background: my daughter regressed gradually between 10 and 14 months, with the 1 year shots providing the final straw.  We went gfcf at 15 months and started the usual testing and supplements at 16 months.  We added MB12 shots and lipo glut late last year.  She's responded well to virtually everything we've done -- now speaks in 3-word sentences, and is a friendly, happy child. We've still got a loooong way to go, but I think we're on the right track.
 



Then there are the 'invisible' whistleblowers like the local pharmacist who told me  (when picking up our vaccines),"you'd better read the insert carefully. Children are being damaged by these vaccines. My son's a pediatrician and he won't give them anymore". I wish I had listened to him. My daughter might have a had a life worth living.



How can this continue to happen to children all around the world?  I  LITERALLY cannot fathom the total cruelty of the people who make these vaccines!  Why is mercury poisoning such a secret?  Why is the government doing nothing to really help my child and everyone
else's?  Why don't people outside our circles care at all? 
 



I wrestle almost constantly with these questions. I often feel like I'm in "The Matrix," trying to distinguish between fact and fiction, or in Orwell's "1984" trying to separate doublethink from reality. What is real and what is hope?

Like you I keep returning to what I KNOW to be true: that my son received, without my truly informed consent, amounts of mercury in dramatic excess of FDA "safety levels"; that the key toxin injected into him (thimerosal) had not been FDA tested; that mercury is severely damaging to the nervous and other systems (recall the material data safety sheet for thimerosal:
http://www.dadsagainstmercury.org/index.php?option=com_
content&task=view&id=35&Itemid=2)
That all of my son's cognitive and physical problems are consistent with mercury toxicity; that dmps does chelate mercury. Buttar has developed the transdermal method of delivery, but he didn't invent dmps. It was in use for mercury detox long before he came along.
 



NYTimes just did a huge story on thimerosal and neurodevelopmental disorders. I was shocked that they were not reporting facts about the dangers. So I looked up the Board members to see if there are any connections to Eli Lilly or other Big Pharma, Yes.. of course there is. I also am sending Robert Kennedy Jr's web site on Thimerosal and the secret meeting between the CDC and big pharma... Kennedy goes into full detail. You want the truth about what's going on, please read Kennedy's site!  This is the WORST corporate crime known to human nature, Abuse of children, some who were left severe/profoundly disabled for life!  I'm also sending the links to the NYTimes board members.
The board of directors at NYT;

Raul E. Cesan
he became president of Schering Laboratories, the U.S. pharmaceutical marketing arm, and in 1994, became president of Schering-Plough Pharmaceuticals. (I'm sure he still owns stock in pharmaceuticals)

Ellen R. Marram
Ms. Marram also serves on the board of directors of the Ford Motor Company and Eli Lilly and Company. [Eli Lilly is the makers of thimerosal]

William E. Kennard
Mr. Kennard joined The Carlyle Group, a private equity firm, in May 2001 as a managing director in the global telecommunications and media group.
 
Henry B. Schacht
Mr. Schacht also serves on the boards of Alcoa (Aluminum Company of America), Johnson & Johnson and Lucent Technologies Inc.[Johnson & Johnson is one of the companies that makes rhogam that injected pregnant women with mercury/thimerosal]


Cathy J. Sulzberger
She was also an editor of Consumer Drug: Digest: American Society of Hospital Pharmacists and Medication Teaching Manual: National Association of Retail Druggist, and a Consumer Editor of the Journal of the National Association of Retail Druggists.

http://tinyurl.com/b4gbg

Executives

Corporate Officers
Neal Roberts

Vice President, Organization Development
The New York Times Company

Previously, Mr. Roberts was vice president of global organization effectiveness with Hoechst Marion Roussel, the fifth largest global pharmaceutical company. There, he directed organization development consulting initiatives providing services to all commercial regions
and global functions located in France, Germany and the U.S. in support of the execution of global strategies and the cultural integration of three merged pharmaceutical companies.

http://www.nytco.com/company-executives-nroberts.html

Robert Kennedy Jr, has been some what of an advocate about the dangers of thimerosal, Here is Robert Kennedy Jr's website of the facts behind thimerosal, the cdc, big pharma cover up! Some of these children are severe/profoundly disabled from this, including my son.

http://tinyurl.com/7cg3k

Bush sealed all vaccine records, and there was a rider put in the homeland security bill that would protect Eli Lilly from lawsuits against thimerosal. The rider has been removed, But Frist and others have been trying to get protection of Big Pharma since the rider was taken out.

The CDC sent an ALARM to pediatrician last year....1 out of 6 children in America has some form of developmental or behavior disorder, This does NOT include the children with cancer, heart disease, asthma, ect....  There IS an EPIDEMIC of SICK children in the USA!!!



Between  biomedical interventions and therapies it's amazing how much we have spent out of pocket for something that never should have happened.  I HATE myself for immunizing my son.  He was such a beautiful perfect human being before.  He loved learning and was so happy.  I was on lists for gifted kids, not autism.  I have tried so much and so much of our interventions have backfired and I don't know how I'm going to get him back.  My son needs help so badly.  So much research money goes to other diseases.  Nobody is knocking at my door trying to raise money for autism while he screams and tantrums for hours. 
 



I know for sure she got too much mercury in her vaccines. I know her  brain capabilities changed after those shots. I don't consider myself "desperate" as much as trying to help my daughter get rid of something that never should have been "put" there in the first place.  I would think that would be anyone's response if mercury poisoning happened to them or their family member; try to get it out!
 



we as consumers are being manipulated and brainwashed into believing a bunch of bold face lies, so we can be drug customers the rest of our lives, as well as our children. You know the more I think about it, are vaccine injuries really a mistake?? I don't want to  upset
 anyone, but It's my own personal believe that it wasn't a "mistake" that our kids got way more mercury then deemed safe. I know that's a bold statement, but that's how I have felt for a long time now,  and  just needed to get it off my chest. 



I am so mad this morning. I woke up to see on my AOL home page in their helath section with Parenting magazine stating that the connection between vaccines and Autism are a MYTH........

my two sons were normal and talking before their first MMR shot......now they both have autism.......They are now ages 6 & 7.......You will never convince me the MMR vaccines do not lead to autism....I live with this everyday and will continue to until the day I die....
SHAME ON YOU AOL!!!!!!!!



Then there are the 'invisible' whistleblowers like the local pharmacist who told me  (when picking up our vaccines),"you'd better read the insert carefully. Children are being damaged by these vaccines. My son's a pediatrician and he won't give them anymore".   I wish I had listened to him. My daughter might have a had a life worth living.



Our son was severely damaged from the shots. Blinded for 1st yr of life, seizures, gi damage, non verbal, etc.) It is better to refuse the vaccines, once our son was injured, it is even harder to get help from docs, they want nothing to do with vaccine damage!



We have been having difficulty with some strange eye and tongue movements.  At random times, she is squinting or putting her fingers in her eyes, and doing just strange things with her eyes.  After her MMR shot around 13 months, she began to do strange things in relation to mouth movements. 



The one thing I knew, is that XXXX reacted horribly to the DTaPs with high pitched screaming.  His head was sixtieth percentile at birth.  At his first appointment for two month vaccinations, his head was still 60th percentile.  Then the shots and high pitched screaming.  He was back two weeks later with a fungal infection, and the chart noted his head was 70th percentile.  And on it went, after each round of DTaPs, his head grew another 10 points in terms of circumference percentile.  XXXX was being tortured and the pediatricians said it was normal.  At 8 months he got rotavirus.  At 11 months he still had "light and expression in his eyes."  At 12 months, he received the fourth round of DTaPs, and from that point forward, he looked like a heroine addict. 



I also received the MMR booster after I delivered my son.  He had muscle tone issues and social issues from birth.  After receiving the MMR at 16 months, what little speech he had was lost.  I also know another mom who's in the same boat as we are.  Too coincidental...No wonder the package insert for the MMR says not to give to women of childbearing age!!
 



am doing HBOT with my son (finished our 89 dive) and in the tank there is a 12 year old girl with her mom. I asked the mom what happened to her daughter. She told me she was a happy and normal 4 year old who went to preschool. She got her repeat vaccine (given by the age of 4 in the Netherlands) for DKTP/HIB and she got a fever seizure which went to status epilepticus and finally she went into a coma. When her parents arrived with the ambulance in the hospital the first question asked was if their daughter was recently immunizised which she was. This beautiful girl is severely handicapped and cannot walk or talk. Because of a vaccine. It happens.
 



 My 1st son was born prematurely in Nov of 99.  Ashamed as I am to admit, I basically had read those articles. I was a reader of mothering magazine, so was aware of the autism/vaccine link, Dr Wakefield and Lyn Redwood by the time my son was born.  Oh, and I spent three weeks on bedrest and guess what I watched: Dan Burton's senate hearings on vaccine safety. I remember thinking "gee, the people who are supposed to be on OUR SIDE (public health-FDA/CDC) remind me of the tobacco lobbyists I was used to seeing testifying at the statehouse (my background is in public health-state tobacco control efforts). I remember being impressed with the Geier's testimony (who I'd also already heard about through Mothering Mag). It did make me more cautious, and I delayed the Hep B series until my son was 3 (then got it assuming the mercury was all out). But replaced it with flu shots for him at 1,2 and 3- he was a preemie so was "at risk".

I trusted our respectful, caring pediatrician, and doctors in general. I believed it couldn't happen to me. I think a lot of parents who knew about the vaccine/autism connection but still vaccinated, did so because of this. Physicians have so much influence over their patients- and I don't even mean in a strong-arming way. We have GOT to do better at bringing truth to the physicians on this issue. I don't know how. But as someone said on this list, I believe, doctors are the other set of victims here. I believe that most are in it to do good, especially peds and GP's. They absolutely believe that vaccines help people. Until we can figure out a way to do this, I'm afraid we will not make a dent in changing immunization practices in this country. Parents are too easily swayed. "It couldn't happen to me anyway, right?"

So now I think I'll go throw up and then reread the five articles on autism/vaccines that appeared in my Mothering Magazines BEFORE my son was born.

Becky

Oh, I forgot to also say that knowing all this...In the 8 months before I got pregnant I got the Hep B series AND the MMR. I started work in a hospital and it was recommended I get these (never had had the Hep B series and was non-immune to rubella). Yes, I even knew about Dr Yazbak at the time. The infection control nurse assured me all would be fine. An everyday thing. No biggie.

Puke.
Becky




http://tinyurl.com/9t68f

Missouri Mother Voices Concerns About Mercury in Vaccines

A new bill both the U.S. House and Senate give approval to grants drug-makers immunity. That`s what lawmakers on Capitol Hill say it will take to develop a bird flu vaccine.
Now a Marshfield woman says it`s bad medicine that could put your children in harm`s way.

At six-years-old, Sam Marshall struggles to find words to one of the most common children`s songs: Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star.

"Within a week or so of getting his 12-month vaccines, he began to lose language," says the boy`s mother. Jana Marshall represents a growing number of parents, concerned about what they call a hidden danger in vaccines.

Sam is autistic. His mother blames it on thimerosal -- a mercury-based preservative found in vaccines. That`s why she`s not crazy about a bill the U.S. Congress signed off on that shields drug companies from public scrutiny.

"There`s no way for [people] to get assistance or help for the mistakes that [the drug companies] make," Marshall says.

"We do need to be looking both for how we produce vaccines without thimerosal and what liability companies should have if liability is proven," Missouri Congressman Roy Blunt says.

Since 1999, drug companies began removing thimerosal from most vaccines routinely used on infants and children, but the debate over vaccines and autism lives on.

"As you know, there are a lot of people in America today that think their grandchildren or children have been impacted by early immunizations," Representative Blunt says.

Missouri law now limits mercury in vaccines to trace amounts. That`s for pregnant women and children under three months, but it`s still found in flu shots. Jana Marshall says it`s a parent`s responsibility to know.

"Sam has brought a lot of joy to our lives, and we`re very proud of the progress that he`s made," Marshall says. "But every time I look back and think, `If I only knew back then what was in those vaccines,` I`m not sure I would have let him have them."

Government officials like Representative Blunt dont want Americans to turn away from vaccines.

The autism-thimerosal controversy is a huge debate in the medical community. Doctors offer parents a word of comfort that not all children react negatively to vaccines. In fact, most children handle the mercury levels quite well.


 

I'll write to this newpaper later.......................If "Doctors" say that "most children handle mercury levels quite well"    it definitely puts those children who   stop talking, ...using the toilet.... or making eye contact......   start................ flapping their hands...rocking .....spinning in circles.............staring ................seizuring, vomiting, and having melt-downs...........in the "some children" category..................YOURS, MINE, and one in every 166................   I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE "DOCTORS" IF THEY TOOK A ROOM FULL OF CHILDREN AND INDIVIDUALLY SLAMMED EACH KID ON THE HEAD WITH A BRICK....................WOULD THEY CALMLY SAY  "MOST CHILDREN HANDLE THE ASSAULT QUITE WELL"??????   THEY INJECT A DEADLY NEUROTOXIN INTO OUR CHILDREN................AND LIGHTLY DISMISS THE ONES WHO CAN'T "HANDLE" IT.  I HATE THEM ALL.................   I'M OVER WHELMED RIGHT NOW.................... I spent the afternoon at school teaching a student who was flapping his hands the whole time he spoke......... ..........the other children find him mildly amusing and call it "waving."   Anne McElroy Dachel Chippewa Falls, WI

Hello,
Unfortunately, you are right. Our second daughter, June, was killed by the "mandatory" DPT vaccine in 1986. She was born on 15 Feb which is my birthday too. Our daughter received the first and only vaccine at her 2 month check up by a nurse who insisted on giving it. Exactly 21 days later after high fever, continuous crying, swelling, redness and delaying by the family doctor, our daughter died. The doctor seemed deliberate at finding excuses not to bring her in and we were rather inexperienced parents and followed his recommendations instead of going to the ER or another doctor. We were devastated.
We didn't hear of a vaccine suit until 1990. We filed 31 Dec as case number 90-3766 V. I never believed our Gov would not only outright lie to us, but continuously try to ruin us from the day we filed the suit. We are still together and surviving but only from an extreme faith in the Almighty! Yes, after what we have seen and heard I have no other explanation for our continued life than His protection. I do not want to elaborate much because most persons feel the stories we tell of attempts on our lives and loss of jobs for no legitimate reason, friends who aren't friends, microchip implants, mind control, outright evil people and departments, ad nauseum, are x-file science fiction or made up as we usually cannot document proof. The Gov seems expert in covering the tracks and discrediting the witnesses some whom have even disappeared. The doctor and nurse who gave the vaccine have long since closed shop in our town and no one knows where they went. We never received closure and 'till this day do harbor resentment toward all state or federal vaccine programs. The bank where our filing fee check was cashed doesn't even exist. They are also experts in denying payment and always changing the rules. We have now learned there are no rules. At least none that can't be contradicted or changed. We had all the required documentation and provided all the documents every time a rule changed and after the umpteenth rule change and several years, we finally figured out the Special Master was going to keep changing the rules until everyone who didn't have a Harvard lawyer and a pile of cash was going to lose. Our lawyer (after we received our denial for not having done an MRI in 1986 before the child died) finally told us he was looking for another doctor??? and that was the last we heard until he sent a bill for 250.00 dollars as his fee for a federal case. Seemed a little low for a lawyer who was doing his "best"!

Our two boys have not received any vaccine with the "P" in it after the oldest got it at 6 months instead of 2 after threats from the clinic. He stopped breathing and had to be on a monitor. We decided to fight the vaccine threats both clinic and state after that. The youngest son never received it at all. IT IS ALL A BIG LIE! We got on with our lives but still have emotional scars even now. The clinic shrink for depression last year said I should have gotten over and forgotten our loss long ago. She has no children and can't possibly have a clue as to how it feels. I quit going to her after this revelation.
Thank you for tolerating my rant.
Jeffrey Moore
 



I'm Cathy, grandmother of XXX who is 7 yrs. old,XXX was diagnosed with "moderate' autism approx. 1 year after MMR. His twin sister has no development issues, but, his 4 yr. old sister had a terrible reaction to MMR, from very playful and attentive to just sitting staring into space for almost a wk. Her pulmonary hypertension (which was better before the shot) came back so severe she had to be trached and vented. I remember when the MMR was a must for kids (late 80's) and I remember a guy at work stating his baby was not getting it because he heard some kids died from it. In going over my kids' shot records (they had them 30 yrs. ago!) they didn't get near as many or as close as my grandchildren. My kids were all healthy THANK GOD, and my grandkids have to suffer because there are "MAD" scientists and doctors out there that don't give a DAMN what they do to kids. And yes, I am one of the people like yourselves want this stopped, the government let this happen and now they need to help us whether they chose to or not, we will make them.
 



I really agree with you that it shouldn't hurt our case to say that some of the kids like Jim Watkins' son appear different from birth--it is just a matter of educating people about not only the Hep B at birth but also any thimerosal-containing vaccines the mom receives during pregnancy.

Interestingly, though, is that I had the complete opposite experience from what you described with XXXX. My ASD son XXXX(now 5) is my second son, and I always thought he seemed bang-on until about 18 mos. As time went on though and XXXX was clearly on the autism spectrum, I really started to doubt myself and I thought there must have been earlier signs I missed. I knew XXXX had lost speech but I thought other things must have been off that I had missed. Early last fall after Dan Olmsted did a column on videos documenting regressive autism, I went back and watched a video of my children on Easter in 2002, when XXXX was 16 mos. I was sickened to see that my earlier intuition had been right, and that up to that point XXXX was developmentally bang-on. In addition to using language in the video, he points to things, bring us things, displays an enormous amount of joint attention, obviously understands exactly what we are saying and is with us in a different
way than he has ever been again. I have challenged several of the therapists that work with XXXX to find any subtle signs of autism in XXXX at that time. They can find none.

I think it just shows that the toxic tipping point happens at different times for different kids. Thank God for videos-- my brain is fried from living with autism and I truly forgot just how far my son had fallen.



The only reason why the whooping cough stats aren't accurately showing the ineffectiveness of the vaccine is because doctors won't test. I begged for 3 wks before my daughter was tested, she tested positive. Then the health dept, ped, and school said my other daughter, who presented with the EXACT same symptoms was not in need of testing because, after all, she had her baby shots. They would never test her or the other half of her third grade class, who were all coughing,along with the school and community. If they would test, they would find a MUCH higher prevalence of whooping cough.



Have an 8yr old daughter with convulsive behavior after 4 month vaccine (stupidly continued vaccinations) has mild memory recall issues, organization, and on IEP. ASD son 6yrs old, fever after every vaccination but met and early on every milestone, sent over the edge by MMR and then 18 month mercury vaccs and regressed all skills by 2years. 3rd Daughter, waited until 6 months tried 1 vacc at a time for 3 months, she developed swallowing issues and stopped vaccs none since and is the smartest little cookie, her reasoning and humor is unbelievable, only a couple of food intolerances.



 After refusing to vaccinate my daughter, I broke down and allowed her to be immunized at 15 months. These 2 were among the 7 she received that day. She was gone soon after---words, eye contact, connectedness, etc. I so rarely pull out that shot record as I carry such tremendous guilt and regret; I can't stand to be reminded of the terrible consequence of ignoring my intuition. I try to avoid getting lost in those feelings and redirect the energy toward healing the damage and recovering my daughter.



My daughter suffers from a very rare auto-immune rheumatoid disease > called Scleroderma (body attacks the connective tissue cells). She also suffers from Rayunaud's syndrome (circulatory condition in the hands and feet)

Both conditions certainly look like classic "pink disease" or acryodenia, red peeling hands and feet that ache constantly. Sadly, she cannot talk to explain to me the pain she is in, but I can tell, some days she walks so gingerly, sometimes on her toes or on the sides of her feet. Some days she wakes up and it looks as if someone took razor blades to the bottom of her heels and hands and she can barely walk! Thank God we live in Florida, where it is generally mild all winter.

If you ever see pictures of those who suffer from Minamata disease (mercury poisoning) they too have the same conditions in their hands and feet. The same with Pink Disease (mercury poisoning) I went to the Pink Disease website and I think 80% suffer from Raynauds syndrome, and a 20% of that number suffer from scleroderma! It is through their website that I realized what was wrong with my  daughter.... Classic Acrodenia, which in laymen's terms is MERCURY POISONING!.... It is real easy to connect the dots in this  particular case of mercury poisoning in my home!

 PS. Why isn't mercury poisoning called MERCURY POISONING? Minamata disease....Pink Disease....Acrodynia.....Autism!?!?!?

 



I am an RN in a busy ER and you're 100% right on the fact that NOBODY even knew what Thimerosal was until I came along. Now I preach to all of them--some listen and some roll their eyes--can't reach 'em all but I still try. I actually refused a few time to give the tetanous shot for simple cuts that did not warrent a vaccine. Unfortunately there is always another nurse that will give it but what I do is explain to the patient, or the parent of the patient, that it is not needed and to refuse it. I have also petitioned the hospital for Thimerosal free vaccines including the flu shot but again that went nowhere because of $$$.

I can just picture the faces of the hospital staff when he said he was allergic. They really do not know what Thimerosal is!
 




Kids Doc,
Take a minute and read your post again, this time from the point of view of a parent.
Can you see how obvious it is to me, parent reading your post, that your priority is the eradication of a specific disease even it if comes at the expense of my individual child?Can you see how ridiculous it is to a parent that you should argue to them that they should vaccinate their child, even if they believe it will harm their child, because that is what is best for everyone else’s children? “Put your baby at risk for permanent brain damage for the good of society!” Do you really think that any responsible parent who cares a whit about their child will say, why yes! I think vaccines may cause autism, but if my child having to be institutionalized will save just one child from getting chicken pox, then it will all be worth it!”I have said this before and i will say it again… my child is not an acceptable loss in your war against communicable diseases. He is not a soldier, he is a baby. His right to be free of toxins that cause brain damage does not go away because we are worried that one kid in San Diego had to go to the hospital.

And one more tip, telling thousands and thousands of parents of children with severe, life long, neurological disorders that they should continue to vaccinate and encourage others to do it, because ONE child in San Diego went to the hospital with measles, and made a full recovery, is an insult that you don’t seem to comprehend. You are basically saying, “to heck with your weak children, our strong children might get sick”.Not to mention the fact that you have judged Kirby with out reading his book (he has ongoing relationships with many medical professionals that he consults) and have declared only medical professionals are allowed to attempt to understand and make assertions about biological processes? Do you see the arrogance in your message to parents like me?Do you really think talking to parents like this is going to earn their trust and earn you more patients and win more people to vaccination? Wait… one more thing. Go to pubmed, type in “thimerosal” and “mitochondria” and read the first couple of studies that come up. You will note that thimerosal causes mitochondrial dysfunction. Perhaps you should do a little more reading up on things before criticizing David Kirby.

 



  Remember the Brady Bunch episode where the kids all got the measles and they fought over having a male versus female doctor? Do you really think a sitcom in 1969 would have taken on an episode about kids getting a horrible, deadly disease? Measles came. Moms nursed their kids back to health. Measles went. Titres complete. I had a doll that had measles on her face. A DOLL. A plaything. Measles were not the black plague......

More fear tactics.
 



Yea, I vaccinated, I followed the herd and I paid the price. He's disabled, he'll never get married or go to school or leave my home. We're playing Russian Roulette with our babies and I lost. If she needs someone to talk to give her my address. I just realized a few months ago that this shot has muratic acid and polysorbate 80, go figure. No wonder he's messed up, and all I had to do as a parent was a little research and i would have known better. Ignorance is NOT bliss!
 



Most "regular" physicians do not receive money from Pharma. What they receive is a controlled and manipulated education, and a very controlled exposure to educational materials. No one markets the articles that have information that conflicts with Pharma's agenda.

One the other hand, they are always being marketed by Pharma.

Now, having said that, there are physicians who are recruited by Pharma, just like the Nazi's recruited Jews to by camp guards. These physicians receive unrestricted grants to do with what they want, but are expected to be very vocal proponents for Pharma in one way or another.

Pharma also helps control academic medicine by providing large amounts of funding and then they establish beach heads in the various academic departments, such as the unholy alliance the Vaccine Action Coalition has in many academic Pediatric departments where they actually pay the salary of a staff member so they can push the propaganda wherever and whenever.


I have a girlfriend that has a 12 year old boy that reacted to his flu vaccine last December. He lost all interest in friends, became a computer junkie and has terrible bowel issues now. He was a soccer player last year and this summer has no interest in it. He is also appears to be developing ADHD. There are reports of four year old kids regressing into autism. We had a regression at 3 1/2! All normal development until the crash. We did a delayed vaccine schedule. It didn't help, just delayed the inevitable!

  Yes, my son was 7 1/2 years old when the flu shot was his toxic tipping point. A vaccine injury can happen at ANY age.
 

I’ve known the dangers of vaccines since my first 2 babies were small and experienced seizures followed by neurological damage, (adhd, tics) and allergies after their shots. We have since had 2 more children with no vaccines at all and they are neurologically healthy with no allergies, eczema, etc.


I got started researching vax while pregnant with my first on accident.  My neighbor had a baby a few months before my first was due and she asked me what I knew about the Hep B vaccine? She couldn't see any reason to subject her infant to that.  I told her I didn't know anything about vaccines but would ask my mom. Mom didn't know anything but told me to ask my aunt..she didn't vax. So I emailed her and asked her about it. She told me to read Mendelssohn's book...I read that one and Neal Millers...and the rest of history..hehe..I shared with my neighbor and she and I both got our hubby's to agree to not vax....I think I have a few other friends too that don't vax because of that one question my neighbor asked me...hehe...I have learned to keep my mouth a little more quiet about vaxing but still try to keep myself informed.
 

My son Alexander is 4 years old. At his first well baby check my husband and the doctor discussed vaccines and the doctor suggested only giving Alex the Hib vaccine that day. His leg swelled terribly, was hard to the touch and an angry red. He fell into a deep sleep, one in which he was completely limp and unresponsive. When we finally could get him to wake up he would scream uncontrollably. He has not had a vaccine since. Between you and me (or really whomever, depending on if they'd think I was paranoid) my husband and I fully believe that if he had been given the full roster of vaccines, particularly those containing thimerosal, he would be autistic. He's very bright yet a little methodical and socially backward. I can't really put my finger on it, but it is something I believe like I believe the sun will come up tomorrow.

My daughter London, who is 6 received all of her shots up until one year,  :-(