Once you have realized that vaccines are not beneficial and have made the decision not to inject your prodigy with them, you must now impart this information gently to your pediatrician. Remember it is very hard to believe vaccines are dangerous when your lively hood depends on you believing vaccines are not dangerous. Medical doctors can never research vaccines and their dangers due to serious conflicts of interest. Can you imagine waking up one day and realizing you have injected the most precious beings parents have with poison? Maybe this is why the suicide rate is so high among doctors. He or she will make all kinds of attempts to get you to continue with vaccination. I usually have to change pediatricians once a year due to the ugly fights we get into as they try and inject my children with poison. Usually they decide the visit is over before all my "vaccination questions" have been answered.
I have outlined a few strategies to assist you in educating your pediatrician. Some with diagrams as needed.
The Seat belt analogy is often used as a tool to represent prevention. A typical doctor will say something like, "you put seat belts on your child right"? To which you will answer, "yes of course!" Then he will say, see vaccinations are just like putting seatbelts on your child. If you encounter a dialog like this, bring this handy dandy picture with you to help your doctor identify the difference.
This is a seat-belt. Notice the strap across the child.
This is a vaccine. Notice there are no straps.
If your pediatrician is still having a hard time seeing the difference even with your picture, explain nothing toxic is being injected in to your child when a seat-belt is being used. This cannot be said about a vaccine.
Another analogy that is used by the medical community is the "Green shirt theory". The analogy is if a child dies just after he was vaccinated, was it from the vaccine or would he have died anyway? The explanation continues, if your child runs out in the street and gets killed by a car is it because he had a green shirt on or because he ran into the street? Makes perfect sense right?
If you hear this from your pediatrician, promise him you will never put a green shirt on your child or let him run into the street. Then reject the injection of toxic chemicals he calls vaccines.
Another analogy that is used by the medical community is the "Green shirt theory". The analogy is if a child dies just after he was vaccinated, was it from the vaccine or would he have died anyway? The explanation continues, if your child runs out in the street and gets killed by a car is it because he had a green shirt on or because he ran into the street? Makes perfect sense right?
If you hear this from your pediatrician, promise him you will never put a green shirt on your child or let him run into the street. Then reject the injection of toxic chemicals he calls vaccines.
Sometimes doctors actually compared vaccines to BREAST MILK! Take a look at both pictures closely.
There is nothing sharp in the breast milk.
There is nothing sharp in the breast milk.
Some Doctors will try and convince you to vaccinate using discussions about relative risks. They like to ask the moms what they perceive to be the number of people who die each day in automobile accidents. They will say 130. Then they will ask how many children die by gunshots per day. Their answer is (11-13). Then they will tell you how many die from influenza each year. They will say 36,000 because this is what the CDC says. You can easily dismiss this last figure because it is a guess. There is no code for death from influenza so it has never been tracked. The actual number is closer to 175 a year and we don't know how many of these people had been vaccinated. Then they go on to talk about the numbers of people mentioned in these reports. Or ask what is the risk of cancer in our lifetime (1 in 3). And then they ask what you do that is absolutely guaranteed risk-free as if this has something to do with injecting your child with some of the most toxic substances on the planet. If none of these scare tactics have worked so far they will point out what the disease they want to inject in, will do to your child.
Should you come across a doctor with this spiel, here are a few ways to counter it.
Automobile accidents: It's an accident! You can't help accidents! It is not an accident to inject kids with poison. Accidents can happen while injecting vaccines as well. The nurse could hit a vein. Ask the doctor about anaphylactic shock. The wrong vaccine could be injected. Too much of the vaccine could be injected. There are a myriad of accidents that can occur with injections.
Should you come across a doctor with this spiel, here are a few ways to counter it.
Automobile accidents: It's an accident! You can't help accidents! It is not an accident to inject kids with poison. Accidents can happen while injecting vaccines as well. The nurse could hit a vein. Ask the doctor about anaphylactic shock. The wrong vaccine could be injected. Too much of the vaccine could be injected. There are a myriad of accidents that can occur with injections.
Gun shots: Tell your doctor you lock up your gun and watch your children closely to help him feel better. Then ask him if he is using this new vaccine delivery system. Reminds me of a gun!
Risk of cancer: Remind your pediatrician gently that the polio vaccine has at least two cancer causing viruses. Cytomegalovirus and SV40. Ask him why so many kids have cancer. Could it be because these viruses have been injected in? If he is still in the room at this point you can bring up the MMR and the avian leukosis virus. Ask him if so many kids have leukemia because of this virus hiding in the MMR. It's made from chicken eggs and contaminated with all sorts of chicken virus. Remember he has never researched vaccines and their contents so he will be uncomfortable discussing them. Ask to read the package inserts of the vaccines. Better yet, have him/her read the side effects to you. Sneak out as he goes into shock. Once you get home, look up homeopaths and naturopaths to help take care of your children. They will never ask you to inject your children with pieces of disease under the guise of healthcare.
Firing patients is common also among mainstream doctors who insist that we vaccinate our children or leave the practice. Keep in mind there are millions of pediatricians. Just pick another.
Risk of cancer: Remind your pediatrician gently that the polio vaccine has at least two cancer causing viruses. Cytomegalovirus and SV40. Ask him why so many kids have cancer. Could it be because these viruses have been injected in? If he is still in the room at this point you can bring up the MMR and the avian leukosis virus. Ask him if so many kids have leukemia because of this virus hiding in the MMR. It's made from chicken eggs and contaminated with all sorts of chicken virus. Remember he has never researched vaccines and their contents so he will be uncomfortable discussing them. Ask to read the package inserts of the vaccines. Better yet, have him/her read the side effects to you. Sneak out as he goes into shock. Once you get home, look up homeopaths and naturopaths to help take care of your children. They will never ask you to inject your children with pieces of disease under the guise of healthcare.
Firing patients is common also among mainstream doctors who insist that we vaccinate our children or leave the practice. Keep in mind there are millions of pediatricians. Just pick another.
Just so you know you are not alone. Here are some conversations (names removed), about dealing with pediatricians.
We too were victims of Pediatric "pressure." My son who had a RhoGAM shot and a dental filling (in me) while in utero, developed a kidney infection after first round of shots (4...all with Hg) that launched us into prophylactic antibiotics...the rest is our autism history. When we showed up at our 4 month appt. I asked to merely delay the shots a week or two..he was still sick after all, on antibiotics. the response was...and I quote...."You can do whatever you want MOM...but I will no longer be your pediatrician." I regretfully succumbed that day...., though immediately. changed peds. Alas, I STILL allowed myself to be bullied by someone without the knowledge and INSTINCT that I had. Who knows what I may have done to save him from more damage. The thought kills me. I have to forever live with that decision of NOT doing what was in my heart. (He was most likely already damaged...but...who knows) If YOU can not protect your baby..WHO WILL??????
Good Advice:
Get a new PED and don't let the door hit your %$@* on the way out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Robert Mendelssohn always loved this kind of logic that doctors seem to follow.
What he said was that most doctors would say to you:
"You take a risk every time you cross the street!"
Really! Is that so? The correct answer should be:
"When I cross the street, I at least take a calculated risk; I can first look left, and then right, making sure my pathway is safe, and continue to look both ways as I cross."
Getting vaccinated allows for no such calculated risks.
Good Advice:
Get a new PED and don't let the door hit your %$@* on the way out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. Robert Mendelssohn always loved this kind of logic that doctors seem to follow.
What he said was that most doctors would say to you:
"You take a risk every time you cross the street!"
Really! Is that so? The correct answer should be:
"When I cross the street, I at least take a calculated risk; I can first look left, and then right, making sure my pathway is safe, and continue to look both ways as I cross."
Getting vaccinated allows for no such calculated risks.
The following letter is one I had to write for my dear friend who thought her pediatrician was telling the truth when he said he didn't mind if she didn't vaccinate her son. At his two month visit she was pressured to vaccinate and when she didn't break, he handed her three articles to go home with and read. Here is my rebuttal to those articles.
Dear Dr XXXX
I am happy to explain my reluctance to vaccinate my child however, you will only be able to understand my convictions at a superficial level due to your inherent conflicts of interest. If you will recall I contacted you before I had Blake and asked if his unvaccinated status would be a problem for you. You conveyed to me that you had no problem with my decision and would continue in your role as caregiver to my three children. In talking with you yesterday, I could see, and you made clear that you would very much like me to change my mind on the subject of vaccination. While your articles are interesting they have done nothing to change the way I think and feel about vaccination. I will attempt here to explain my position to you in hopes that you will absolutely and positively understand why I feel the way I do. After you read my letter we can agree to disagree, or I can find another pediatrician. I will address each issue expressed in the article you gave me by Dr Nield and Dr Kamat.
First of all, the authors make a great deal of assumptions in the first paragraph. Childhood diseases controlled by vaccination? Obviously they have not taken the time to check facts and make sure what they are saying is true. Sanitation has had the biggest impact in eradicating disease. You can see that by looking at these charts here.
Dear Dr XXXX
I am happy to explain my reluctance to vaccinate my child however, you will only be able to understand my convictions at a superficial level due to your inherent conflicts of interest. If you will recall I contacted you before I had Blake and asked if his unvaccinated status would be a problem for you. You conveyed to me that you had no problem with my decision and would continue in your role as caregiver to my three children. In talking with you yesterday, I could see, and you made clear that you would very much like me to change my mind on the subject of vaccination. While your articles are interesting they have done nothing to change the way I think and feel about vaccination. I will attempt here to explain my position to you in hopes that you will absolutely and positively understand why I feel the way I do. After you read my letter we can agree to disagree, or I can find another pediatrician. I will address each issue expressed in the article you gave me by Dr Nield and Dr Kamat.
First of all, the authors make a great deal of assumptions in the first paragraph. Childhood diseases controlled by vaccination? Obviously they have not taken the time to check facts and make sure what they are saying is true. Sanitation has had the biggest impact in eradicating disease. You can see that by looking at these charts here.
or here...
When the CDC starts it chart at 1940 it’s easy to see why these authors would think the vaccine actually did something. This is why it’s important to take time and do your own research.
Why parents refuse
Vaccine safety. Yes this concerns me a great deal. The unproven link to MMR and autism is a huge factor. When you really read the story and find out that all Dr Wakefield said was, “Gee, I’m finding live measles virus vaccine strain in the guts of 12 autistic kids and maybe we should look into the MMR” and for that he is blackballed and labeled a liar, you realize like him, you should never try tipping that sacred vaccination cow and expect to continue to practice medicine.
On vaccination causing devastating conditions….A person gets this idea from reading the package insert. If an adverse event occurs within a few days of vaccination it must be reported. When something is reported often enough it becomes a pattern. A parent can see this where a Dr. might say yeah but the benefits offset the risk because he/she thinks in terms of the population not of individual children. I as a parent, am only willing to see my children as individuals and they are not exendable.
Religion
The only exemption besides medical that is allowed in Florida is a religious one. Parents don’t have the luxury of just saying no to a medical procure they are not convinced is safe or effective so we must use what is available.
Under-appreciation of the seriousness of vaccine preventable diseases.
I am one of the 1/5 that believes childhood illnesses are not dangerous in healthy children. These diseases have been demonized and mismanaged by the medical community. Did you know there are some benefits to actually getting childhood diseases in childhood? I have the added blessing of older people in my immediate family who remember what measles, mumps and rubella ect. were like and lived to tell about it while they acquired lifetime immunity.
Anti-government/anti-pharmaceutical sentiment
Obviously the authors never bothered to check facts on this either. If you want proof of this check the homeland security bill and see if an Eli Lilly rider was slipped in to give LILLY protection against lawsuits on using mercury in vaccines. Did you know Bush Sr worked for Eli Lilly? The government is replete with associations like this. Dr Paul Offit works for the CDC and makes vaccines. Conflict of interest to say the least.
Pediatricians’ responses
I have used all examples given to come up with my conclusions. However, I disagree with the statement you might be successful in changing my mind if I object on philosophical grounds. I object on every level.
Be open minded
Being open minded is not looking for a way to sneak in vaccines i.e. modified schedule. Open minded is actually looking into the facts on vaccination.
Educate
I love the first part! Learn about all aspects of the immunization process! Can you honestly say you or anyone else in the medical community knows how the immune system works? It’s a mystery. Yes, you have theories. Antibody, germ, ect…but when all is said and done its not Antibody TRUTH or Antibody LAW. It’s Antibody THEORY. Until you or the medical community completely understands the immune system, you will not find me experimenting with my child. I am only interested in evidence based medicine. If you can provide proof that vaccination works other than anecdotal “proof”, let me know.
Thimerosal
There is no safe amount injected into a child. Why would anyone do this? Please don’t tell me it’s just a little. The CDC says 5 mcgs. is safe in a 110lb person. Blake is 11lbs. Using your own guidelines, he cannot safely have a vaccine injected inside him. Most vaccines had/have 25 mcgs.
Use decision aids
I’ve made my decision, please respect it.
Document
I am happy to sign a vaccine refusal form. I wonder if you would sign one guaranteeing me that if anything happened to Blake as the result of vaccination you would be financially responsible for his care up to and including selling your house to do it. I’m guessing you wouldn’t.
Dismissal of patients
I am no longer sure if you still want us as patients with our strong convictions. Let me know if you aren’t comfortable with my decision. We will make other arrangements.
Legal Action Luckily we don’t live in West Virginia or Mississippi and we still do as of today have a religious exemption.
Vaccination as a public matter
Herd Immunity: The CDC defines this as 95% coverage for all vaccines. They believe we must achieve this goal to prevent outbreaks of disease. Have we ever achieved 95%? No. In any state? No. Have we ever been close? No. Do we have outbreaks of diseases? No. Florida is 78% vaccinated. Colorado 64% yet I have never heard of rampant disease in Colorado or Florida. This is a pharmaceutical industries made up fantasy, nothing more.
Next article
Vaccine “Scares”
This article is about vaccines and mercury. I’m sorry, I really can’t even fathom how anyone of sound mind could think mercury would be okay to inject into any living being. It goes beyond my capabilities. I’ll have to pass on this one. You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s dangerous or not.
MMR
Whether or not the MMR causes autism is really not an issue for me. It has so many other problems that autism doesn’t even come in the top five.
I will give you a few and will elaborate if you want more information.
1. It’s made in chicken eggs. GBS may be triggered by an infection. The infection that most commonly precedes GBS is caused by a bacterium called Campylobacter jejuni. Dr. Chen of the CDC’s Immunization Safety Branch said that the since the vaccine is made in chicken eggs and that 40-50% of chickens are infected with Campylobacter, this might be the cause. I will not take that chance with Blake.
2. AVL (bird leukemia) is now being screened out from chicken eggs used in vaccine manufacture. Manufactures are so proud they have located the offending adventitious virus that they proudly display this fact on the label. Have you checked to see if your MMR carries this label? Here is what it looks like on the yellow fever vaccine bottle.
Why parents refuse
Vaccine safety. Yes this concerns me a great deal. The unproven link to MMR and autism is a huge factor. When you really read the story and find out that all Dr Wakefield said was, “Gee, I’m finding live measles virus vaccine strain in the guts of 12 autistic kids and maybe we should look into the MMR” and for that he is blackballed and labeled a liar, you realize like him, you should never try tipping that sacred vaccination cow and expect to continue to practice medicine.
On vaccination causing devastating conditions….A person gets this idea from reading the package insert. If an adverse event occurs within a few days of vaccination it must be reported. When something is reported often enough it becomes a pattern. A parent can see this where a Dr. might say yeah but the benefits offset the risk because he/she thinks in terms of the population not of individual children. I as a parent, am only willing to see my children as individuals and they are not exendable.
Religion
The only exemption besides medical that is allowed in Florida is a religious one. Parents don’t have the luxury of just saying no to a medical procure they are not convinced is safe or effective so we must use what is available.
Under-appreciation of the seriousness of vaccine preventable diseases.
I am one of the 1/5 that believes childhood illnesses are not dangerous in healthy children. These diseases have been demonized and mismanaged by the medical community. Did you know there are some benefits to actually getting childhood diseases in childhood? I have the added blessing of older people in my immediate family who remember what measles, mumps and rubella ect. were like and lived to tell about it while they acquired lifetime immunity.
Anti-government/anti-pharmaceutical sentiment
Obviously the authors never bothered to check facts on this either. If you want proof of this check the homeland security bill and see if an Eli Lilly rider was slipped in to give LILLY protection against lawsuits on using mercury in vaccines. Did you know Bush Sr worked for Eli Lilly? The government is replete with associations like this. Dr Paul Offit works for the CDC and makes vaccines. Conflict of interest to say the least.
Pediatricians’ responses
I have used all examples given to come up with my conclusions. However, I disagree with the statement you might be successful in changing my mind if I object on philosophical grounds. I object on every level.
Be open minded
Being open minded is not looking for a way to sneak in vaccines i.e. modified schedule. Open minded is actually looking into the facts on vaccination.
Educate
I love the first part! Learn about all aspects of the immunization process! Can you honestly say you or anyone else in the medical community knows how the immune system works? It’s a mystery. Yes, you have theories. Antibody, germ, ect…but when all is said and done its not Antibody TRUTH or Antibody LAW. It’s Antibody THEORY. Until you or the medical community completely understands the immune system, you will not find me experimenting with my child. I am only interested in evidence based medicine. If you can provide proof that vaccination works other than anecdotal “proof”, let me know.
Thimerosal
There is no safe amount injected into a child. Why would anyone do this? Please don’t tell me it’s just a little. The CDC says 5 mcgs. is safe in a 110lb person. Blake is 11lbs. Using your own guidelines, he cannot safely have a vaccine injected inside him. Most vaccines had/have 25 mcgs.
Use decision aids
I’ve made my decision, please respect it.
Document
I am happy to sign a vaccine refusal form. I wonder if you would sign one guaranteeing me that if anything happened to Blake as the result of vaccination you would be financially responsible for his care up to and including selling your house to do it. I’m guessing you wouldn’t.
Dismissal of patients
I am no longer sure if you still want us as patients with our strong convictions. Let me know if you aren’t comfortable with my decision. We will make other arrangements.
Legal Action Luckily we don’t live in West Virginia or Mississippi and we still do as of today have a religious exemption.
Vaccination as a public matter
Herd Immunity: The CDC defines this as 95% coverage for all vaccines. They believe we must achieve this goal to prevent outbreaks of disease. Have we ever achieved 95%? No. In any state? No. Have we ever been close? No. Do we have outbreaks of diseases? No. Florida is 78% vaccinated. Colorado 64% yet I have never heard of rampant disease in Colorado or Florida. This is a pharmaceutical industries made up fantasy, nothing more.
Next article
Vaccine “Scares”
This article is about vaccines and mercury. I’m sorry, I really can’t even fathom how anyone of sound mind could think mercury would be okay to inject into any living being. It goes beyond my capabilities. I’ll have to pass on this one. You can’t have it both ways. Either it’s dangerous or not.
MMR
Whether or not the MMR causes autism is really not an issue for me. It has so many other problems that autism doesn’t even come in the top five.
I will give you a few and will elaborate if you want more information.
1. It’s made in chicken eggs. GBS may be triggered by an infection. The infection that most commonly precedes GBS is caused by a bacterium called Campylobacter jejuni. Dr. Chen of the CDC’s Immunization Safety Branch said that the since the vaccine is made in chicken eggs and that 40-50% of chickens are infected with Campylobacter, this might be the cause. I will not take that chance with Blake.
2. AVL (bird leukemia) is now being screened out from chicken eggs used in vaccine manufacture. Manufactures are so proud they have located the offending adventitious virus that they proudly display this fact on the label. Have you checked to see if your MMR carries this label? Here is what it looks like on the yellow fever vaccine bottle.
If its not there, you are potentially injecting your patients with a bird leukemia. The risk/benefit is not there for me.
3. At the FDA Center For Biologics Evaluation and Research, along with WHO, at the conference for EVOLVING SCIENTIFIC AND REGULATORY PERSPECTIVES ON CELL SUBSTRATES FOR VACCINE DEVELOPMENT Workshop on Friday, 10 September 1999, Dr Minor was quoted as saying this, “One of the difficulties with the whole of adventitious agent business of course is you only really find what you are looking for. That's an ongoing problem.” I will not subject my son to an ‘on going problem’.
4. The rubella portion of the vaccine is made in aborted fetal cells. Yes, it solves the problem of the animal adventitious viruses but it may create more problems than we know. Until there are some definitive studies I will pass on this one as well.
5. This vaccine is live. I do my best to avoid virus just in case the germ theory might have some validity. Giving live virus access to my son’s organs is not my idea of preventive medicine along with the fact that live measles virus vaccine strain has been found by several doctors including Wakefield, Kringsman and Buie in children’s guts. I will err on the side of caution. I believe there might be a connection to a persistent virus that damages the gut and celiac disease. I’m not willing to experiment with Blake. He has enough gut issues.
6. The MMR contains Neomycin a drug that is used to suppress gastrointestinal bacteria or microflora before surgery to avoid infection. I’m not sure why that would be a good idea when your gut is 70% of your immune system. Why destroy your flora?
7. As for the rubella virus, when a pregnant woman is exposed to it and contracts it, it has been implicated in autism. Injecting it inside children and then those children shedding to a pregnant population borders on the criminal for me.
8. The fact that autism is even associated with rubella gives me pause on whether or not to inject it inside a child. Coupled with the fact kids’ regress into autism after a rubella shot solidifies my resolve to have no part in it. I know for the medical community one in 150 having autism is not a pattern, and no cause for concern, but for me it is. I will not risk Blake.
9. US Science Magazine reports 26% of children Rubella–vaccinated developed arthralgia or arthritis. Dr. Glen Dettman found that one third of Rheumatoid arthritis sufferers had live Rubella viruses in their joints. Not taking that chance with Blake.
10. Another ingredient in some MMR vaccines is porcine gelatin which is a pig derivative. We are vegan. I have read the studies you referenced and the one I hold the most contempt for is the Something- is- rotten- in- Denmark Study were 25% of the kids are mysteriously lost and it’s funded by the CDC. Hardly unbiased.
I have similar concerns about all the vaccines and can go on indefinitely. I will stop now and hope you understand completely how we feel about vaccines. Please advise us if we need to find another pediatrician.
3. At the FDA Center For Biologics Evaluation and Research, along with WHO, at the conference for EVOLVING SCIENTIFIC AND REGULATORY PERSPECTIVES ON CELL SUBSTRATES FOR VACCINE DEVELOPMENT Workshop on Friday, 10 September 1999, Dr Minor was quoted as saying this, “One of the difficulties with the whole of adventitious agent business of course is you only really find what you are looking for. That's an ongoing problem.” I will not subject my son to an ‘on going problem’.
4. The rubella portion of the vaccine is made in aborted fetal cells. Yes, it solves the problem of the animal adventitious viruses but it may create more problems than we know. Until there are some definitive studies I will pass on this one as well.
5. This vaccine is live. I do my best to avoid virus just in case the germ theory might have some validity. Giving live virus access to my son’s organs is not my idea of preventive medicine along with the fact that live measles virus vaccine strain has been found by several doctors including Wakefield, Kringsman and Buie in children’s guts. I will err on the side of caution. I believe there might be a connection to a persistent virus that damages the gut and celiac disease. I’m not willing to experiment with Blake. He has enough gut issues.
6. The MMR contains Neomycin a drug that is used to suppress gastrointestinal bacteria or microflora before surgery to avoid infection. I’m not sure why that would be a good idea when your gut is 70% of your immune system. Why destroy your flora?
7. As for the rubella virus, when a pregnant woman is exposed to it and contracts it, it has been implicated in autism. Injecting it inside children and then those children shedding to a pregnant population borders on the criminal for me.
8. The fact that autism is even associated with rubella gives me pause on whether or not to inject it inside a child. Coupled with the fact kids’ regress into autism after a rubella shot solidifies my resolve to have no part in it. I know for the medical community one in 150 having autism is not a pattern, and no cause for concern, but for me it is. I will not risk Blake.
9. US Science Magazine reports 26% of children Rubella–vaccinated developed arthralgia or arthritis. Dr. Glen Dettman found that one third of Rheumatoid arthritis sufferers had live Rubella viruses in their joints. Not taking that chance with Blake.
10. Another ingredient in some MMR vaccines is porcine gelatin which is a pig derivative. We are vegan. I have read the studies you referenced and the one I hold the most contempt for is the Something- is- rotten- in- Denmark Study were 25% of the kids are mysteriously lost and it’s funded by the CDC. Hardly unbiased.
I have similar concerns about all the vaccines and can go on indefinitely. I will stop now and hope you understand completely how we feel about vaccines. Please advise us if we need to find another pediatrician.
In France, DTaP and Tuberculosis vax are mandatory, and they really push all the others. Of course, the doctor freaked out when we told her that we discontinued vax for darling son 1 and had not vaxed the other 2 at all. I told her my reasons, i.e. concern about the ingredients, the harm to the immune system, and of course vaccine reactions. She had never even considered that vax could be harmful, and denied that there were harmful ingredients in them.
In France, they speak of vaccine accidents instead of reactions. So when I told her I was concerned about accidents she told me:
"Yes, we hear about vaccine accidents, but that is nonsense. You may get in a car accident after being vaccinated, but obviously you can't blame that on the vaccine!"
um, ok....
Vaccines- shocking short story
I took my 16 yrs son to the ped today, because he has had terrible allergies for weeks. She told me that he is also behind on his "well child" check-ups, and in need of vaccines: tetanus, hep A, and meningitis. I told her no to the Hep A, and I wanted to research the meningitis further before deciding, but I was OK with the tetanus IF it was the new version that is thimerosal free. She wasn't happy about me asking to see the package insert and the vax itself, but she agreed. (Nice of her, since she was the one who gave my son mercury poisoning in the first place.) She gave me her verbal assurance that the ONLY thimerosal-containing vax they still use in her practice is the flu, but I insisted on seeing for myself. The package insert for the DECAVAC shot only listed aluminum (which I'm not fond of either, but I'll choose my battles). However, the nurse brought me the vaccine in its box, and on the box it clearly said "contains thimerosal". The MD got all flustered and said "OH- THAT'S THE WRONG PACKAGE! THAT'S THE VAX WE HAVE TO GIVE TO THE MEDICAID KIDS BECAUSE THE STATE WON'T PAY FOR THE THIMEROSAL-FREE VERSIONS"
Can you believe it?!? Our tax dollars are continuing to be used to provide thimerosal to low-income kids, who will end up on the public dole for the rest of their lives with mercury poisoning! I was appalled!
In the area that I live in most of the parents I know have been kicked out of the pediatrician's office for refusing to vaccinate. It is absolutely horrible that there is someone from the AAP instructing Ped's on how to correctly decide whether to call in the CPS. What I want to know is when do we ask the Ped's to sign a contract stating they are also equally liable for any damage resulting from the multitude of crap they inject in our children in the name of herd immunity? This whole situation makes my blood boil!
I have 4 physicians in my immediate family, 3 of whom are clueless about autism/gut issues and did not approve of my son being scoped. In addition, I had seen 3 pediatric gastroenterologists (one with top credentials in NYC), all of whom said it was "impossible" that my son had colitis, and that his chronic diarrhea was "no big deal so long as he is growing". One of them called me "a neurotic mom in search of the perfect poop" and told me scoping was an "invasive procedure" that was "unethical" to perform on someone with my son's profile (8-10 bouts of yellow colored diarrhea per day, constant raised red rash on buttocks, frequent night waking in full tilt scream, unusual postures, etc.) My son was scoped by Krigsman last year and, lo and behold, was found to have colitis. Krigsman sent me the pathology slides by e-mail, and I had a lot of fun forwarding those slides to all the "brilliant" mainstream doctors in his life.
I don't judge anyone, and likewise they better not say one thing about the way I choose to conduct my son's therapy. I blindly followed the "recommendations" to have my son vaccinated and look what that did...do you really think I give a **** what any doctor, with however many letters after their name, now says about how I choose to TREAT him for the injury they helped perpetrate???
I think the vast majority of those implicated in causing this disaster in the first place are well-intentioned, caring people. (I mean most of the pediatricians and nurses, not the pharmco execs.) My OB, who was the most charming sweetheart *ever, shot me up with a bucket load of RhoGam -- and I'm sure if he ever comes to grips with the damage that caused he will be more than horrified.
My favorite from our pediatrician was when we asked him at our 15 and 18 month check-up why our son didn't say Momma or daddy or point. He told us it was because we gave him everything and he didn't have to do those things. Classic!!
I'll never forget what our former HMO Pediatrician said regarding my son's loss of speech, "He's showing higher intelligence and just doesn't need to speak right now"! Being deeply in denial at the
time, I left the doctors office thinking my son was a fricking genius. Mom, who wasn't in denial, knew better. Moms always know better.
But I thought the "epidemic" was a result of better diagnosis?? So who's doing the diagnosis if not the front line docs? In fact, what the peds say is "Boys speak later than girls, don't worry." "The 105 temp and screaming has nothing to do with the DtaP, don't worry." Or one I actually heard this past weekend -- a Mom was told "Your four month old is holding her breath to get your attention" when she was having a vaccine reaction. Isn't that impossible to believe? But don't forget, in their defense,
autism is considered a psych disorder in med school -- so it is glossed over. Just as they are woefully incapable of providing cogent advice to battle the epidemic of childhood obesity -- the have NO TRAINING in nutrition. And I've read where they are actual afraid/embarrassed as a whole to talk to Mom about a child's weight. Case in point, my niece is 5, weighs 150 pounds and her pediatrician simply referred my sister in law to a nutritionist. SAD.
(If you wonder if your pediatrician has your child's best interest in mind....wonder no more....)
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Jun/20050630News025.asp
Pediatricians ponder anthrax vaccine tests
Knight Ridder Newspapers
Published Thursday, June 30, 2005
WASHINGTON - The government’s effort to develop a new vaccine against anthrax has raised red flags among critics over plans to eventually test an experimental version on children. Robert Bock, a spokesman for the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, said the new anthrax vaccine would not be tested on 100 first- and second-graders until it is first tested safely on adults. That is under way now, he said.
"If that study is successful, there will probably be a protocol to test the anthrax vaccine in children," Bock said. While federal rules govern how children can be used in medical research, Barbara Loe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center, said the threat of anthrax exposure was too remote to subject children to a possibly dangerous substance.
"There is almost no risk to these children of being exposed to a form of ... anthrax that has been weaponized" so it can be inhaled, said Fisher, whose not-for-profit group has been pushing for vaccine safety since the 1980s.
"The benefits are zero, and risk is quite high," she said.
Several pediatricians involved in bioterrorism issues, however, said that given the potential threat, it would be irresponsible not to include children in the test.
"Considering that in a worst-case scenario, this vaccine would have to be used in an emergency over a very short period of time, we would be in a bad position medically and ethically if it were not tested beforehand," said Stanley Plotkin, emeritus professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania.
Plotkin was a consultant on a 2002 study that declared the current anthrax vaccine to be "effective" and "acceptably safe." But government researchers at the National Institutes of Health now are trying to find a better vaccine. There are concerns the current vaccine, which has been in use for several decades, causes too many side effects. They range from simple headaches and muscle pains to more serious and complex ailments such as heart problems, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, hypertension, diabetes and blood clots.
The current vaccine is given in a series of six doses over 18 months, with annual boosters. More than 1.3 million military and civilian personnel have taken it. Made by the BioPort Corp. of Lansing, Mich., the vaccine has been approved only for anthrax exposure through the skin, not through inhalation, the way it would be disseminated on a battlefield or in a public place.
I had another rousing argument with our pediatrician's office the other day (wanted me to sign the "pre-filled-out form" to refuse my daughter's vaccinations and I said I would NOT sign it because it said QUOTE, "I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may endanger the health or life of my child and others that my child might come in contact with". I said I absolutely would NOT sign that statement because I absolutely did NOT agree and that I wanted that statement changed to say "I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may SAVE the health or life of my child" but they said I could not do that. I asked, "why not, if you're asking me to sign a statement and put MY signature to it, then why should I have to sign words that are not mine? THOSE are not MY words, and there is no way on God's earth I would ever make such a statement so there's no way I'm signing it as though it were my own statement and belief!"
After 45 minutes of trying to argue my mercury-injury theory to this pharmaceutically-kickbacked provider who had NO CLUE whatsoever (just kept spitting up all the bull they feed these guys for 4 years in medical school), he left the room, and after ten or fifteen minutes came back with a "compromise"...they would change that line to read, "Although I disagree,(doctor's office) states that failure to follow the recommended...(blah, blah, blah)". I agreed that would meet my approval.I know a lot of parents just sign the form b/c they have to, but that just made me almost as mad as when he was first diagnosed and I figured out what caused it...the weasel-y way they impose the guilt trip on these parents by making them sign a statement that basically says, "I admit I'm a terrible parent for refusing to vaccinate my child". Hello, I will NOT sign a statement saying that I KNOW that failure to vaccinate will endanger my child, because he is living through a reality far worse than a case of measles or mumps...the results of the vaccines themselves, and I refuse to kiss these pharmaceutical butts and act like I have no idea what these vaccines really do to kids!
Heck, if we ever do find an attorney willing to represent us, I'm sure the pharmacy giants will go back and get that document and say, "Look here, you signed a statement AFTER your son was diagnosed that you KNEW that vaccines were safe and effective, because you stated that you KNEW that failure to get them would endanger or kill your child." Not THIS chick, baby!!! My son may have been diagnosed at night, but it wasn't LAST night, LoL!
Believe it... my son reacted right away. We said we did not want the Hep B at birth, they gave it to him anyway (no consent signed or anything - totally against our wishes). It is their "routine." It does not show up anywhere on his patient record with the family physician. When I asked about it after the fact, I was told it was the hospital policy to vaccinate all newborns so it "was a given."
Also, at his first round at the doc's office, I insisted I did not want him to get the Hep B. They said, "OK, we'll agree to that" (after half an hour of them coercing me to do the shots anyway). Come to find out, they gave him the HepB/Hib combo vaccine!!! So he got it anyway!
Can't imagine they would double vax?... they do it all the time. Sorry to say that - unfortunately it's true. My doctor's words when I refused more vaccines after his severe reaction, "Let's just try one more and see what happens." Can you imagine?!
According to the woman I spoke with at NVIC, everyday she hears from mothers who say that the instructions were for one vaccine. And when the mother turned her attention away for a minute to attend to another child, the nurses zapped the baby with 1, 2 to or even 3 more shots. GOING TO THE PEDIATRICIAN CAN BE VERY HAZARDOUS. Do so at your baby's risk. Another common game the pediatricians and nurses play is that the mother will request one vaccine (usually polio or DTaP) and then the nurses gives the baby the MMR instead or HEP B instead. You don't find out until after the fact and then there is nothing you can do.
I have had doctors over the past 6 years "off the record" agree with me that XXXX is vaccine damaged. Officially they will not say it. It is evident that they live in fear of losing their medical license.
First of all there are so called outbreaks of measles every year. The majority of children that contract the measles in said outbreaks did receive the MMR. My daughter had her MMR at 15 months and then got a bad case of the measles at 6 years of age. The Ped just shrugged and said these things happen. What also happens is they start a fear campaign every year to terrify parents into getting a dangerous vaccine.
I remember a few years back when our doctor told me the AMA told doctors that those who are injured by vaccines are defective. He means their genes are defective. To me that is unconscionable for the medical profession to take this position.
This next quote is from a pediatrician who just can't see the connection to sickness following vaccinations.
"Our kids are back in school since August 10, so we're over the mad rush for school physicals and immunizations, and are starting to see more sick kids, as they start passing germs back and forth again in school."
This is the same old story for some of you, but wanted to share my very own experience that I had just this morning. I took my 7-yr-old son (who has autism) to a pediatrician in the practice we go to for a quick physical to ok his anesthesia and dental work at the hospital next Friday. While there, the doc tried to convince me (she was unsuccessful) to bring XXXXX up to date on his immunizations since "all of the thimerosal has been removed from vaccines, so there's no need for concern." I asked for the inserts from the vaccines and I've just read through them. The one for the DT (no pertussis) states that the single-dose vials contain a trace amount of thimerosal (<.3 mcg Hg/0.5 mL dose) and the multi-dose vial contains A LOT: 25 mcg Hg/0.5mL dose. Yes, 25 mcg Hg per dose vs the trace in the single dose. How many doses are in a multi-dose vial? How many ped. offices, clinics, hospitals, etc. are using multi-dose vials?
How the HELL can the AMA, AAP, the drug companies, the gov't, and the media continue to falsely state, just like the pediatrician today, that "all of the thimerosal has been removed from vaccines"????? At this rate, the incidence of autism will NOT decline and all of those agencies will be able to say, "see, told you so, there's no correlation between thimerosal and autism -- all of the thimerosal has been removed [LIE] and the autism rates are still high." This is MADDENING.
In the middle of our conversation, this ped. had the nerve to caution me against eating too much tuna as there is "much more mercury in fish than there ever was in vaccines." How disrespectful and
contradictory.
I wanted to share my experience with the L&D nurses today as I completed the pre-admission paperwork to give birth to baby boy# 2 this next week (hopefully!) Let me tell ya, I was ready for a fight. I will be delivering at a small local hospital and wasn't sure how compliant they would be. In discussing my birth plan, vaccinations and the HepB came up. I told her that we were delaying vaccinations and she mentioned the autism-thimerosal connection. I told her that was precisely why were not giving the shot to the baby. She said their supply was mercury-free and I told her about the possibility of trace amounts... she jumped up and went to retrieve the package inserts. She was very open to discussion and asked many questions and was very compassionate, several of the nurses were. In the end, she said to me - "Don't let anyone bully you into vaccinating." I think my jaw dropped. I just wasn't expecting the baby nursery nurse to be supportive. I have read so many horror stories... hopefully ours will not be.
Pediatrician:
"I do know that in Nigeria for a while they stopped using polio vaccine in Muslim areas because there was a rumor that it contained pork. Perhaps we should have some mashgeeheem overseeing the manufacture of vaccines." We are a lot smarter than those people in Nigeria - we know the vaccines do not have pork. But Thimerosal - that's another story!
Wrong again! Another example of a pediatrician who has never read the package insert.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/26-6-19103-0-8-13.html
Muslim babies’ MMR jabs have traces of pork
Injections illegal under Islamic law, says Imam
Hi everyone!
I just wanted to let everyone know what happened to my family last night. I took my son, who's 4, and my daughter, who'll be 2 on Saturday, to their family doctor for their checkups (my kids have been seeing the same doctor everytime). After the doctor finished his analysis, he asked me, like he always does, "do you still feel the same way about the vaccines." Both of my kids are not vaccinated and are very healthy and hardly ever sick. I told him that I still feel the same way, religious reasons. He then replied to me, just to let you know that this office might be making a policy to drop patients who do not vaccinated. He then said that Keystone BCBS (that is our insurance company) is giving them a hard time with patients who do not vaccinate. Then in his next breath, he mentioned that the office is losing money on patients who do not vaccinate. He then started to lecture me on the risks on not vaccinating and that my kids could die. I mentioned that I have done my research and it was my husband's and I decision not to vaccinate. He then said, "well you cannot always believe what you read." I then told him that I have the inserts that the pharma companies give the doctors, that the doctors do not give to the patients about the vaccines. He was speechless. I mentioned to him that if he checked my children's charts, that they were never in the office for any sickness.
After leaving his office I remembered that I should have said to him, that if he would sign a release form claiming that he would take full responsibility if something would to happen to my children if they became vaccinated, then I would vaccinate them. (He kinda caught me off guard.) I would have loved to hear his reaction. I guess this doctor thought he could scare me into getting my children vaccinated by telling me they could die and he thought I was stupid and just following a "trend". I was ready for it and had knowledge to back up my beliefs.
Thank you everyone for the information that is send throughout this group on vaccines. It has helped me greatly and I always pass this information on to others who ask me about vaccines.
Have a Happy New Years everyone!
Renee
I think it was more of a money issue, than the insurance company pressuring the doctor's office. Doctors lose out on money from the insurance company if a child is not vaccinated. With my kids (who are not vaccinated) they are never sick, so I have no need to take them to the doctor, meaning the doctors lose out on more money. I also know that doctors get incentives from pharmas when prescribing certain drugs to patients, but they can't prescribe drugs to patients who are not sick, which is most children who are not vaccinated.
I pray we get to the point where more people drop the doctors AND the insurance company. It isn't health insurance. It's medical insurance. Modern medicine has evolved into a major cause of disease and death. Knowing what you know about vaccines, why would anyone bring healthy children to be examined by someone who gives those horrible things to other children?
Our Three-Month Old Baby's First Trip to the Pediatrician
Vaccine Refusal and Medical Intimidation
by Josh Day
As our son was born at home in February of 2007, we were fortunate enough to not endure the battery of tests, dubious administrations like silver nitrate and the vitamin K shot, and the routine Hepatitis B vaccine most hospitals recommend and/or require for all newborn infants.
It is our belief and nonprofessional medical opinion that the vast majority of vaccines are little cluster bombs in a burgeoning immune system.
It's also our opinion that vaccines are potentially harmful to deadly, especially when administered in an inoculation "cocktail" of multiple shots. This barrage of toxic substances is not being delivered into an adult who weighs over a hundred pounds, mind you, but into a tiny baby less than fifteen pounds and not even four months of age.
The purpose of this article is to share our experience at our pediatrician's office and to help parents who have decided against vaccinating their children. Be it a medical, religious, or philosophical reason, if you have made the choice against vaccination, you must be ready to defend your decision during your visits to pediatricians.
When the nurse asked us about James' vaccine schedule, we politely and firmly told her we would not be vaccinating him. We were fortunate as she was non-confrontational and did not push the issue. However, one should be prepared for a hostile response because some medical personnel may attempt to intimidate or shame you into changing your mind. In extreme cases, some may even threaten child protection services or go so far as to label vaccine refusal as child abuse.
These are most likely idle threats, probably well-intentioned but assuredly based on typical medical education that only presents the pro-vaccine point of view.
In any event, stay polite, firm, and do not back down. Do not let an aggressive nurse engage you in an argument or discussion of the issue.
If the sitatuion gets nasty, politely tell the nurse you are done talking and will only speak further with the doctor.
If it's the doctor who won't relent and continues to mention words like "child abuse," politely inform him/her that you need a pediatrician you can work with, someone who respects your wishes regarding vaccines for your child. And then leave and find a different doctor.
The most important thing to remember is that you can scoop up your baby and leave at any time. They cannot and will not hold you against your will. And even the most outrageous and bellicose nurse will not attempt to inject your child against your wishes.
To continue the narrative about our experience, the nurse returned with a vaccine refusal form for us to sign. Legally, you do not have to sign any forms. However, chances are good that without your signature your child will be refused treatment and you will have to shop elsewhere for pediatric services.
If you are given a form like we were, read it carefully, and read it twice. Do not let the nurse or doctor's impatience speed you up or have you sign prematurely. Watch out for forms that lock your signature onto a clause that states you are medically endangering your child. If you put your name to such a statement, CPS could have a case against you. The damning sentence posed to us read something like "We acknowledge we are endangering our child's life by refusing..."
The fix was simple. We merely crossed out the clause. The rest of the form was acceptable as it merely stated which vaccines we were refusing, the benefits and risks, and that we had been informed. There is absolutely no reason for the endangerment clause other than to intimidate, scare, and advance the pharmaceutical industry's war effort against informed parents who refuse to vaccinate.
Unfortunately, things weren't quite over.
When the doctor came in, she actually tried to make us sign a fresh form. In no uncertain terms we refused. We remained polite, but we let her know exactly why we would not sign that clause. We stated something like, "As James' parents, we feel we would be endangering his life by vaccinating him. We are good parents to our son and will not sign otherwise."
Once we clearly stated where we were coming from, the doctor agreed with us and said something along the lines of, "Well, I have to cover my bases too. If your child gets whooping cough, then I'd be legally responsible." I honestly could not believe what I was hearing. They were trying to get us to sign a legally damning document, with absolutely no regard for us, our very real medical reservations about vaccination, or the welfare of our son just to cover their own ass in case it ever came to court.
We remained cool and firm and eventually came to a compromise that satisfied both parties. We scratched out the original clause and wrote in: "We have been informed by our doctor of the risks and benefits of vaccines." We initialed the new clause and the battle for vaccine refusal was over, at least for that doctor visit.
Below are the preparations we took before we entered the doctor's office. We had done a lot of reading and were prepared for any eventuality. It's important for those of us who choose not to vaccinate to do our homework so we can present our point of view unemotionally and convincingly. Remember: the nurses and doctors have their ducks in a row where vaccinations are concerned... do you?
* Always have both the mother and father present during doctor visits. Medical personnel are much less likely to gang up on you if you're both there. One thing I did was hold James throughout the visit. By and large, women are deemed weaker targets on which to thrust medical intervention, and having me hold James sent a subtle yet powerful psychological message.
* Go in with a one-page printed and signed statement expressing your view on vaccination. You may even want to go so far as having it notorized. Be sure to fully research the vaccine laws in your area before you sign anything as one seemingly insignificant word could be damning down the road. Legally, the written word is your most powerful tool, and a cogent and concise statement of where you stand regarding vaccination demonstrates your resolve as well as the fact that you're an informed parent.
* Before the appointment, have one parent wait in the car with the child while the other waits in the waiting room. Even if the facility has "sick" and "well" waiting rooms, pediatrician's offices are swamps of germs and disease, and each room is most likely on the same ventilation system. Protecting your well baby from sickness is another act of showing you are informed and a good parent. Do not let dirty looks or rude comments cause you to bring the baby inside before you are called.
* Go out of your way to be polite and nice to the nurse when you first meet her even though, ultimately, it will not be the nurse you'll be dealing with but the doctor.
* Even though it's important to remain polite and non-emotional, be prepared for aggression. The night before, assign one parent to be a "good cop" and the other the "bad cop." Good cop-bad copping is a wonderful technique to get what you want and to avoid being taken advantage of. Have the good cop be super nice, and the bad cop hard-nosed.
* Be prepared to walk out. At any time. If the doctor becomes hostile and threatens to not "see" you, politely inform the doctor you need a physician you can trust and who respects your point of view and then walk out. Remember, it is they who are providing the service, and you are paying dearly for it.
* Your pediatrician is NOT necessarily your friend. Do not let a doctor sweet-talk you or otherwise trick you into vaccinating if you've decided against it.
* Never sign anything that contains a clause stating you are a neglectful parent or are "endangering" your child.
* Finally and most importantly, "Be nice." No matter what they throw at you, be nice, even if you have to walk. You gain nothing by getting angry, but you could lose a lot. Stay detached and friendly.
My first email to Arthur Allen:
-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Crim <dawndanc@yahoo.com>
To: arthurallenw@aol.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 8:38 pm
Subject: You think that you are an expert on vaccines, huh?
Please explain the following:
The CDC tells us that 36,000 people die each year from the flu (in order to try to mandate yet another vaccine and of course sell more too). Yet, their MOST RECENT statistics showed that they only reported 1,806 deaths in 2005 (the majority in the elderly). IN previous years, it was even less. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
The CDC tells us that 20,000 babies contract congenital rubella each year. Yet, ONE YEAR BEFORE the vaccine came on the market, they only reported 14 cases in 1968 of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. There were even less in previous years. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT??
How about the SV40 Virus? Can you explain why just 6 mo. ago the CDC mentioned nothing of U.S. Citizens receiving this contaminated polio vaccine? Very recently, they changed their story and stated that millions received it. Despite the fact that the virus causes cancer in lab animals, there is no proof yet that it does in humans. I just spoke with a mother whose young child just tested positive for it. How some 50 years later? Why, the cancer causing virus is being transferred genetically of course! So, whether you vaccinate or not, your own future generations will be affected thanks to these lunatics.
Why do doctors not practice informed consent with vaccines? Why do they only tell you about "fussiness" or inflammation at the injection site? Do doctors know that the brain has a separate immune system? Do they know what happens to it during and after vaccination?Why do the majority of doctors not report reactions to VAERS? Why do doctors not read the vaccine literature for each and every vaccine? They don't because two different hospitals almost killed me and my baby last year due to their "lack of knowledge" involving vaccines. I now have hearing damage, my child has vision damage and I won't go into the rest of my living hell either. IT IS ALL VACCINE RELATED!! Why do doctors not inform you of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program?
Why are we told that formaldehyde is toxic in the air, but it is safe to inject it? Remember the FEMA trailers? My infant received AT LEAST 300 MICROGRAMS OF IT WITH THREE VACCINES!
Why is there still mercury in the "mercury free vaccines"? Why are we lied to? Yes, it is still there because there is NO WAY to remove it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing process! How many trace shots will trigger Autism? An independent lab tested 4 mercury free vials and THEY ALL HAD MERCURY! Why are we now getting many prescription drugs from China (uninspected too). Oh, I forgot our government poisoned China's children with mercury laced vaccines. Prior to 1999, Autism was unheard of there, they began buying U.S. vaccines, and by 2005 they reported 1.8 million cases! Wasn't it in 2006 that they poisoned our pets, children and food?? Hmmm....
Why hasn't there been a study on the vaccinated/unvaccinated yet? Why aren't doctors aware of Japan's recent findings on the vaccine/autism link? Why aren't doctors aware of the recent release of the infant primate study (vaccines/autism)?
Why is there a disclaimer on every vaccine that states the following: Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, and Impairment of Fertility: No studies have been done. They don't know if they cause cancer, alter our DNA,or impair our fertility - YET THEY ARE QUITE SAFE??!! http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 7 to view ex. of new warning)
I could go on and on....
Please respond. I would like answers.
Dawn Crim
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His response:
Arthur Allen <arthurallenw@aol.com> wrote:
Sorry, but I don't have time to respond to your questions. If you're interested in the research I've done, I suggest your read my book. You can probably check it out of your local library.
Arthur Allen
science writer, www.washingtonindependent.com
author, Vaccine: the Controversial Story of Medicine's Greatest Lifesaver (WW Norton, 2007)
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My response:
Actually, I could care less about your so-called research. My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injuries. That is my proof. Vision damage, hearing damage, brain damage, etc. YES, vaccines do a lot of damage! Just talk to the U.S. Dept of Education - in 2007 they reported 1 in 67 children now have autism in elementary school. DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE THAT STUPID TO BLAME IT ON GENETICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SOLELY??
FYI - I get my "facts" from the CDC's reported statistics 1 - 5 years BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, along with viewing VAERS, and speaking to thousands of other victims out there.
To hell with you and your lies to the public.
O.k., my blood is still boiling. I'll give everyone a rundown on what has led me to see this dimwit in the first place.
My 20 month old had severe reactions to his 2, 4, and 6 mo. vaccines -all dismissed of course by the on-call nurse after 2 and 4 month rounds. He had high-pitched screaming, congestion, partial seizures, regressed, began showing signs of delays, is now receiving intervention services,etc
At 12 mo. of age he was saying "here kitty, kitty, mama, dada, hi, ba-baba," and other words. He didn't even start babbling though until 10 1/2 months which is definitely a red flag to begin with. Over the past 8 months he has lost all words (we stopped vaccinated at 6 mo. and he didn't receive all of the recommended ones thankfully). He was "cruising" for 7 mo. too which in my opinion is way too long. Now, he is still unsteady on his feet, bumping into things, falling backwards off the couch, losing his balance, etc. After 2 recent illnesses, it worsened - he looked like a little drunk because he would be standing there, slightly turn his head to look at you and just fall to the floor. So, his pediatrician recommended a pediatric neurologist. So, I went today with my Mom. The doctor evaluated him, asked for the history and as soon as I started blaming vaccines he then began talking down to me by saying things like "It doesn't sound like your son had partial seizures. Your son doesn't have Autism and if he did numerous studies have shown there is no connection. However, it is your right to discontinue the vaccines, but your son is at a severe risk of catching these diseases like Measles and such". Then he had the nerve to tell me my son's simply delayed in speech - I felt like screaming he is NOT DELAYED - HE WAS SPEAKING AND IT STOPPED! Explain that you jerk!
So, after he was done I mentioned Ataxia. He told me that my son doesn't appear to have it (o.k. before running any tests?). I said, well just so you know he was exposed to Magnesium Sulfate which can cause low-tone and ATAXIA. He was then given Aluminum Hydroxide in his DTaP which can cause low-tone and ATAXIA. He was also given neomycin which is not recommended if the child has low tone because it can worsen it. I also asked him about ATAXIA being caused by
drugs that have a depressant effect on the Central Nervous System. He is not aware of any in vaccines. I said, "Really? The FDA issued a statement that they were removing a nursing mother's nipple cream that contained phenoxyethanol because it may cause SIDS and depression of the central nervous system. Yet, my son received it in his DTaP vaccine? All goes in vaccines, huh?". I also said, "I don't care what the medical community says, I blame the vaccines and you will never convince me otherwise." I could tell he was really aggravated and wanted to get rid of me by this point. So, he mentioned that he was ordering some bloodwork to check for genetic abnormalities. I said, "So, you aren't going to check for vitamin deficiencies such as E and B12?" "No", he said. What a big fat waste of time going to this idiot.
So, before he left the room I said, "Doctor, let me leave you with 2 last thoughts. You know Bernadine Healy, right? (He actually said NO!). She is the former director of the NIH who gave a recent interview. She came out and said that the children who regressed after their vaccines have NEVER been studied. The recent study that the CDC released only covered 30 something children. So, I hardly call that a study. The medical community is seriously misinformed because the Autism/vaccine connection has NEVER been properly studied to date. Furthermore, ask yourself why these people who catch these diseases are never tested for the strain they are carrying. It is just my opinion doctor, but more than likely it is because the strain would be linked back to the vaccine in current use. So, if I have to
decide between Measles and Cancer - yes, vaccines cause cancer and so much more doctor - I think I will take Measles." He quickly gathered his paperwork and left the room to order the bloodwork while totally tuning me out.
My Mom got into the car and told me that she was so embarrassed. I said, "Mom, don't be. Be angry. They hurt your grandson with these damn vaccines and now they are conspiring to cover it all up". She then sighed and agreed with me. On a good note, I have a friend of a friend who is getting me in to see a DAN doctor for help. My son's immune system is down now and despite what the medical community states - his problems began with drugs and vaccines. Period.
In France, they speak of vaccine accidents instead of reactions. So when I told her I was concerned about accidents she told me:
"Yes, we hear about vaccine accidents, but that is nonsense. You may get in a car accident after being vaccinated, but obviously you can't blame that on the vaccine!"
um, ok....
Vaccines- shocking short story
I took my 16 yrs son to the ped today, because he has had terrible allergies for weeks. She told me that he is also behind on his "well child" check-ups, and in need of vaccines: tetanus, hep A, and meningitis. I told her no to the Hep A, and I wanted to research the meningitis further before deciding, but I was OK with the tetanus IF it was the new version that is thimerosal free. She wasn't happy about me asking to see the package insert and the vax itself, but she agreed. (Nice of her, since she was the one who gave my son mercury poisoning in the first place.) She gave me her verbal assurance that the ONLY thimerosal-containing vax they still use in her practice is the flu, but I insisted on seeing for myself. The package insert for the DECAVAC shot only listed aluminum (which I'm not fond of either, but I'll choose my battles). However, the nurse brought me the vaccine in its box, and on the box it clearly said "contains thimerosal". The MD got all flustered and said "OH- THAT'S THE WRONG PACKAGE! THAT'S THE VAX WE HAVE TO GIVE TO THE MEDICAID KIDS BECAUSE THE STATE WON'T PAY FOR THE THIMEROSAL-FREE VERSIONS"
Can you believe it?!? Our tax dollars are continuing to be used to provide thimerosal to low-income kids, who will end up on the public dole for the rest of their lives with mercury poisoning! I was appalled!
In the area that I live in most of the parents I know have been kicked out of the pediatrician's office for refusing to vaccinate. It is absolutely horrible that there is someone from the AAP instructing Ped's on how to correctly decide whether to call in the CPS. What I want to know is when do we ask the Ped's to sign a contract stating they are also equally liable for any damage resulting from the multitude of crap they inject in our children in the name of herd immunity? This whole situation makes my blood boil!
I have 4 physicians in my immediate family, 3 of whom are clueless about autism/gut issues and did not approve of my son being scoped. In addition, I had seen 3 pediatric gastroenterologists (one with top credentials in NYC), all of whom said it was "impossible" that my son had colitis, and that his chronic diarrhea was "no big deal so long as he is growing". One of them called me "a neurotic mom in search of the perfect poop" and told me scoping was an "invasive procedure" that was "unethical" to perform on someone with my son's profile (8-10 bouts of yellow colored diarrhea per day, constant raised red rash on buttocks, frequent night waking in full tilt scream, unusual postures, etc.) My son was scoped by Krigsman last year and, lo and behold, was found to have colitis. Krigsman sent me the pathology slides by e-mail, and I had a lot of fun forwarding those slides to all the "brilliant" mainstream doctors in his life.
I don't judge anyone, and likewise they better not say one thing about the way I choose to conduct my son's therapy. I blindly followed the "recommendations" to have my son vaccinated and look what that did...do you really think I give a **** what any doctor, with however many letters after their name, now says about how I choose to TREAT him for the injury they helped perpetrate???
I think the vast majority of those implicated in causing this disaster in the first place are well-intentioned, caring people. (I mean most of the pediatricians and nurses, not the pharmco execs.) My OB, who was the most charming sweetheart *ever, shot me up with a bucket load of RhoGam -- and I'm sure if he ever comes to grips with the damage that caused he will be more than horrified.
My favorite from our pediatrician was when we asked him at our 15 and 18 month check-up why our son didn't say Momma or daddy or point. He told us it was because we gave him everything and he didn't have to do those things. Classic!!
I'll never forget what our former HMO Pediatrician said regarding my son's loss of speech, "He's showing higher intelligence and just doesn't need to speak right now"! Being deeply in denial at the
time, I left the doctors office thinking my son was a fricking genius. Mom, who wasn't in denial, knew better. Moms always know better.
But I thought the "epidemic" was a result of better diagnosis?? So who's doing the diagnosis if not the front line docs? In fact, what the peds say is "Boys speak later than girls, don't worry." "The 105 temp and screaming has nothing to do with the DtaP, don't worry." Or one I actually heard this past weekend -- a Mom was told "Your four month old is holding her breath to get your attention" when she was having a vaccine reaction. Isn't that impossible to believe? But don't forget, in their defense,
autism is considered a psych disorder in med school -- so it is glossed over. Just as they are woefully incapable of providing cogent advice to battle the epidemic of childhood obesity -- the have NO TRAINING in nutrition. And I've read where they are actual afraid/embarrassed as a whole to talk to Mom about a child's weight. Case in point, my niece is 5, weighs 150 pounds and her pediatrician simply referred my sister in law to a nutritionist. SAD.
(If you wonder if your pediatrician has your child's best interest in mind....wonder no more....)
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Jun/20050630News025.asp
Pediatricians ponder anthrax vaccine tests
Knight Ridder Newspapers
Published Thursday, June 30, 2005
WASHINGTON - The government’s effort to develop a new vaccine against anthrax has raised red flags among critics over plans to eventually test an experimental version on children. Robert Bock, a spokesman for the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, said the new anthrax vaccine would not be tested on 100 first- and second-graders until it is first tested safely on adults. That is under way now, he said.
"If that study is successful, there will probably be a protocol to test the anthrax vaccine in children," Bock said. While federal rules govern how children can be used in medical research, Barbara Loe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center, said the threat of anthrax exposure was too remote to subject children to a possibly dangerous substance.
"There is almost no risk to these children of being exposed to a form of ... anthrax that has been weaponized" so it can be inhaled, said Fisher, whose not-for-profit group has been pushing for vaccine safety since the 1980s.
"The benefits are zero, and risk is quite high," she said.
Several pediatricians involved in bioterrorism issues, however, said that given the potential threat, it would be irresponsible not to include children in the test.
"Considering that in a worst-case scenario, this vaccine would have to be used in an emergency over a very short period of time, we would be in a bad position medically and ethically if it were not tested beforehand," said Stanley Plotkin, emeritus professor of pediatrics at the University of Pennsylvania.
Plotkin was a consultant on a 2002 study that declared the current anthrax vaccine to be "effective" and "acceptably safe." But government researchers at the National Institutes of Health now are trying to find a better vaccine. There are concerns the current vaccine, which has been in use for several decades, causes too many side effects. They range from simple headaches and muscle pains to more serious and complex ailments such as heart problems, arthritis, multiple sclerosis, hypertension, diabetes and blood clots.
The current vaccine is given in a series of six doses over 18 months, with annual boosters. More than 1.3 million military and civilian personnel have taken it. Made by the BioPort Corp. of Lansing, Mich., the vaccine has been approved only for anthrax exposure through the skin, not through inhalation, the way it would be disseminated on a battlefield or in a public place.
I had another rousing argument with our pediatrician's office the other day (wanted me to sign the "pre-filled-out form" to refuse my daughter's vaccinations and I said I would NOT sign it because it said QUOTE, "I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may endanger the health or life of my child and others that my child might come in contact with". I said I absolutely would NOT sign that statement because I absolutely did NOT agree and that I wanted that statement changed to say "I know that failure to follow the recommendations about vaccination may SAVE the health or life of my child" but they said I could not do that. I asked, "why not, if you're asking me to sign a statement and put MY signature to it, then why should I have to sign words that are not mine? THOSE are not MY words, and there is no way on God's earth I would ever make such a statement so there's no way I'm signing it as though it were my own statement and belief!"
After 45 minutes of trying to argue my mercury-injury theory to this pharmaceutically-kickbacked provider who had NO CLUE whatsoever (just kept spitting up all the bull they feed these guys for 4 years in medical school), he left the room, and after ten or fifteen minutes came back with a "compromise"...they would change that line to read, "Although I disagree,(doctor's office) states that failure to follow the recommended...(blah, blah, blah)". I agreed that would meet my approval.I know a lot of parents just sign the form b/c they have to, but that just made me almost as mad as when he was first diagnosed and I figured out what caused it...the weasel-y way they impose the guilt trip on these parents by making them sign a statement that basically says, "I admit I'm a terrible parent for refusing to vaccinate my child". Hello, I will NOT sign a statement saying that I KNOW that failure to vaccinate will endanger my child, because he is living through a reality far worse than a case of measles or mumps...the results of the vaccines themselves, and I refuse to kiss these pharmaceutical butts and act like I have no idea what these vaccines really do to kids!
Heck, if we ever do find an attorney willing to represent us, I'm sure the pharmacy giants will go back and get that document and say, "Look here, you signed a statement AFTER your son was diagnosed that you KNEW that vaccines were safe and effective, because you stated that you KNEW that failure to get them would endanger or kill your child." Not THIS chick, baby!!! My son may have been diagnosed at night, but it wasn't LAST night, LoL!
Believe it... my son reacted right away. We said we did not want the Hep B at birth, they gave it to him anyway (no consent signed or anything - totally against our wishes). It is their "routine." It does not show up anywhere on his patient record with the family physician. When I asked about it after the fact, I was told it was the hospital policy to vaccinate all newborns so it "was a given."
Also, at his first round at the doc's office, I insisted I did not want him to get the Hep B. They said, "OK, we'll agree to that" (after half an hour of them coercing me to do the shots anyway). Come to find out, they gave him the HepB/Hib combo vaccine!!! So he got it anyway!
Can't imagine they would double vax?... they do it all the time. Sorry to say that - unfortunately it's true. My doctor's words when I refused more vaccines after his severe reaction, "Let's just try one more and see what happens." Can you imagine?!
According to the woman I spoke with at NVIC, everyday she hears from mothers who say that the instructions were for one vaccine. And when the mother turned her attention away for a minute to attend to another child, the nurses zapped the baby with 1, 2 to or even 3 more shots. GOING TO THE PEDIATRICIAN CAN BE VERY HAZARDOUS. Do so at your baby's risk. Another common game the pediatricians and nurses play is that the mother will request one vaccine (usually polio or DTaP) and then the nurses gives the baby the MMR instead or HEP B instead. You don't find out until after the fact and then there is nothing you can do.
I have had doctors over the past 6 years "off the record" agree with me that XXXX is vaccine damaged. Officially they will not say it. It is evident that they live in fear of losing their medical license.
First of all there are so called outbreaks of measles every year. The majority of children that contract the measles in said outbreaks did receive the MMR. My daughter had her MMR at 15 months and then got a bad case of the measles at 6 years of age. The Ped just shrugged and said these things happen. What also happens is they start a fear campaign every year to terrify parents into getting a dangerous vaccine.
I remember a few years back when our doctor told me the AMA told doctors that those who are injured by vaccines are defective. He means their genes are defective. To me that is unconscionable for the medical profession to take this position.
This next quote is from a pediatrician who just can't see the connection to sickness following vaccinations.
"Our kids are back in school since August 10, so we're over the mad rush for school physicals and immunizations, and are starting to see more sick kids, as they start passing germs back and forth again in school."
This is the same old story for some of you, but wanted to share my very own experience that I had just this morning. I took my 7-yr-old son (who has autism) to a pediatrician in the practice we go to for a quick physical to ok his anesthesia and dental work at the hospital next Friday. While there, the doc tried to convince me (she was unsuccessful) to bring XXXXX up to date on his immunizations since "all of the thimerosal has been removed from vaccines, so there's no need for concern." I asked for the inserts from the vaccines and I've just read through them. The one for the DT (no pertussis) states that the single-dose vials contain a trace amount of thimerosal (<.3 mcg Hg/0.5 mL dose) and the multi-dose vial contains A LOT: 25 mcg Hg/0.5mL dose. Yes, 25 mcg Hg per dose vs the trace in the single dose. How many doses are in a multi-dose vial? How many ped. offices, clinics, hospitals, etc. are using multi-dose vials?
How the HELL can the AMA, AAP, the drug companies, the gov't, and the media continue to falsely state, just like the pediatrician today, that "all of the thimerosal has been removed from vaccines"????? At this rate, the incidence of autism will NOT decline and all of those agencies will be able to say, "see, told you so, there's no correlation between thimerosal and autism -- all of the thimerosal has been removed [LIE] and the autism rates are still high." This is MADDENING.
In the middle of our conversation, this ped. had the nerve to caution me against eating too much tuna as there is "much more mercury in fish than there ever was in vaccines." How disrespectful and
contradictory.
I wanted to share my experience with the L&D nurses today as I completed the pre-admission paperwork to give birth to baby boy# 2 this next week (hopefully!) Let me tell ya, I was ready for a fight. I will be delivering at a small local hospital and wasn't sure how compliant they would be. In discussing my birth plan, vaccinations and the HepB came up. I told her that we were delaying vaccinations and she mentioned the autism-thimerosal connection. I told her that was precisely why were not giving the shot to the baby. She said their supply was mercury-free and I told her about the possibility of trace amounts... she jumped up and went to retrieve the package inserts. She was very open to discussion and asked many questions and was very compassionate, several of the nurses were. In the end, she said to me - "Don't let anyone bully you into vaccinating." I think my jaw dropped. I just wasn't expecting the baby nursery nurse to be supportive. I have read so many horror stories... hopefully ours will not be.
Pediatrician:
"I do know that in Nigeria for a while they stopped using polio vaccine in Muslim areas because there was a rumor that it contained pork. Perhaps we should have some mashgeeheem overseeing the manufacture of vaccines." We are a lot smarter than those people in Nigeria - we know the vaccines do not have pork. But Thimerosal - that's another story!
Wrong again! Another example of a pediatrician who has never read the package insert.
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/26-6-19103-0-8-13.html
Muslim babies’ MMR jabs have traces of pork
Injections illegal under Islamic law, says Imam
Hi everyone!
I just wanted to let everyone know what happened to my family last night. I took my son, who's 4, and my daughter, who'll be 2 on Saturday, to their family doctor for their checkups (my kids have been seeing the same doctor everytime). After the doctor finished his analysis, he asked me, like he always does, "do you still feel the same way about the vaccines." Both of my kids are not vaccinated and are very healthy and hardly ever sick. I told him that I still feel the same way, religious reasons. He then replied to me, just to let you know that this office might be making a policy to drop patients who do not vaccinated. He then said that Keystone BCBS (that is our insurance company) is giving them a hard time with patients who do not vaccinate. Then in his next breath, he mentioned that the office is losing money on patients who do not vaccinate. He then started to lecture me on the risks on not vaccinating and that my kids could die. I mentioned that I have done my research and it was my husband's and I decision not to vaccinate. He then said, "well you cannot always believe what you read." I then told him that I have the inserts that the pharma companies give the doctors, that the doctors do not give to the patients about the vaccines. He was speechless. I mentioned to him that if he checked my children's charts, that they were never in the office for any sickness.
After leaving his office I remembered that I should have said to him, that if he would sign a release form claiming that he would take full responsibility if something would to happen to my children if they became vaccinated, then I would vaccinate them. (He kinda caught me off guard.) I would have loved to hear his reaction. I guess this doctor thought he could scare me into getting my children vaccinated by telling me they could die and he thought I was stupid and just following a "trend". I was ready for it and had knowledge to back up my beliefs.
Thank you everyone for the information that is send throughout this group on vaccines. It has helped me greatly and I always pass this information on to others who ask me about vaccines.
Have a Happy New Years everyone!
Renee
I think it was more of a money issue, than the insurance company pressuring the doctor's office. Doctors lose out on money from the insurance company if a child is not vaccinated. With my kids (who are not vaccinated) they are never sick, so I have no need to take them to the doctor, meaning the doctors lose out on more money. I also know that doctors get incentives from pharmas when prescribing certain drugs to patients, but they can't prescribe drugs to patients who are not sick, which is most children who are not vaccinated.
I pray we get to the point where more people drop the doctors AND the insurance company. It isn't health insurance. It's medical insurance. Modern medicine has evolved into a major cause of disease and death. Knowing what you know about vaccines, why would anyone bring healthy children to be examined by someone who gives those horrible things to other children?
Our Three-Month Old Baby's First Trip to the Pediatrician
Vaccine Refusal and Medical Intimidation
by Josh Day
As our son was born at home in February of 2007, we were fortunate enough to not endure the battery of tests, dubious administrations like silver nitrate and the vitamin K shot, and the routine Hepatitis B vaccine most hospitals recommend and/or require for all newborn infants.
It is our belief and nonprofessional medical opinion that the vast majority of vaccines are little cluster bombs in a burgeoning immune system.
It's also our opinion that vaccines are potentially harmful to deadly, especially when administered in an inoculation "cocktail" of multiple shots. This barrage of toxic substances is not being delivered into an adult who weighs over a hundred pounds, mind you, but into a tiny baby less than fifteen pounds and not even four months of age.
The purpose of this article is to share our experience at our pediatrician's office and to help parents who have decided against vaccinating their children. Be it a medical, religious, or philosophical reason, if you have made the choice against vaccination, you must be ready to defend your decision during your visits to pediatricians.
When the nurse asked us about James' vaccine schedule, we politely and firmly told her we would not be vaccinating him. We were fortunate as she was non-confrontational and did not push the issue. However, one should be prepared for a hostile response because some medical personnel may attempt to intimidate or shame you into changing your mind. In extreme cases, some may even threaten child protection services or go so far as to label vaccine refusal as child abuse.
These are most likely idle threats, probably well-intentioned but assuredly based on typical medical education that only presents the pro-vaccine point of view.
In any event, stay polite, firm, and do not back down. Do not let an aggressive nurse engage you in an argument or discussion of the issue.
If the sitatuion gets nasty, politely tell the nurse you are done talking and will only speak further with the doctor.
If it's the doctor who won't relent and continues to mention words like "child abuse," politely inform him/her that you need a pediatrician you can work with, someone who respects your wishes regarding vaccines for your child. And then leave and find a different doctor.
The most important thing to remember is that you can scoop up your baby and leave at any time. They cannot and will not hold you against your will. And even the most outrageous and bellicose nurse will not attempt to inject your child against your wishes.
To continue the narrative about our experience, the nurse returned with a vaccine refusal form for us to sign. Legally, you do not have to sign any forms. However, chances are good that without your signature your child will be refused treatment and you will have to shop elsewhere for pediatric services.
If you are given a form like we were, read it carefully, and read it twice. Do not let the nurse or doctor's impatience speed you up or have you sign prematurely. Watch out for forms that lock your signature onto a clause that states you are medically endangering your child. If you put your name to such a statement, CPS could have a case against you. The damning sentence posed to us read something like "We acknowledge we are endangering our child's life by refusing..."
The fix was simple. We merely crossed out the clause. The rest of the form was acceptable as it merely stated which vaccines we were refusing, the benefits and risks, and that we had been informed. There is absolutely no reason for the endangerment clause other than to intimidate, scare, and advance the pharmaceutical industry's war effort against informed parents who refuse to vaccinate.
Unfortunately, things weren't quite over.
When the doctor came in, she actually tried to make us sign a fresh form. In no uncertain terms we refused. We remained polite, but we let her know exactly why we would not sign that clause. We stated something like, "As James' parents, we feel we would be endangering his life by vaccinating him. We are good parents to our son and will not sign otherwise."
Once we clearly stated where we were coming from, the doctor agreed with us and said something along the lines of, "Well, I have to cover my bases too. If your child gets whooping cough, then I'd be legally responsible." I honestly could not believe what I was hearing. They were trying to get us to sign a legally damning document, with absolutely no regard for us, our very real medical reservations about vaccination, or the welfare of our son just to cover their own ass in case it ever came to court.
We remained cool and firm and eventually came to a compromise that satisfied both parties. We scratched out the original clause and wrote in: "We have been informed by our doctor of the risks and benefits of vaccines." We initialed the new clause and the battle for vaccine refusal was over, at least for that doctor visit.
Below are the preparations we took before we entered the doctor's office. We had done a lot of reading and were prepared for any eventuality. It's important for those of us who choose not to vaccinate to do our homework so we can present our point of view unemotionally and convincingly. Remember: the nurses and doctors have their ducks in a row where vaccinations are concerned... do you?
* Always have both the mother and father present during doctor visits. Medical personnel are much less likely to gang up on you if you're both there. One thing I did was hold James throughout the visit. By and large, women are deemed weaker targets on which to thrust medical intervention, and having me hold James sent a subtle yet powerful psychological message.
* Go in with a one-page printed and signed statement expressing your view on vaccination. You may even want to go so far as having it notorized. Be sure to fully research the vaccine laws in your area before you sign anything as one seemingly insignificant word could be damning down the road. Legally, the written word is your most powerful tool, and a cogent and concise statement of where you stand regarding vaccination demonstrates your resolve as well as the fact that you're an informed parent.
* Before the appointment, have one parent wait in the car with the child while the other waits in the waiting room. Even if the facility has "sick" and "well" waiting rooms, pediatrician's offices are swamps of germs and disease, and each room is most likely on the same ventilation system. Protecting your well baby from sickness is another act of showing you are informed and a good parent. Do not let dirty looks or rude comments cause you to bring the baby inside before you are called.
* Go out of your way to be polite and nice to the nurse when you first meet her even though, ultimately, it will not be the nurse you'll be dealing with but the doctor.
* Even though it's important to remain polite and non-emotional, be prepared for aggression. The night before, assign one parent to be a "good cop" and the other the "bad cop." Good cop-bad copping is a wonderful technique to get what you want and to avoid being taken advantage of. Have the good cop be super nice, and the bad cop hard-nosed.
* Be prepared to walk out. At any time. If the doctor becomes hostile and threatens to not "see" you, politely inform the doctor you need a physician you can trust and who respects your point of view and then walk out. Remember, it is they who are providing the service, and you are paying dearly for it.
* Your pediatrician is NOT necessarily your friend. Do not let a doctor sweet-talk you or otherwise trick you into vaccinating if you've decided against it.
* Never sign anything that contains a clause stating you are a neglectful parent or are "endangering" your child.
* Finally and most importantly, "Be nice." No matter what they throw at you, be nice, even if you have to walk. You gain nothing by getting angry, but you could lose a lot. Stay detached and friendly.
My first email to Arthur Allen:
-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Crim <dawndanc@yahoo.com>
To: arthurallenw@aol.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 8:38 pm
Subject: You think that you are an expert on vaccines, huh?
Please explain the following:
The CDC tells us that 36,000 people die each year from the flu (in order to try to mandate yet another vaccine and of course sell more too). Yet, their MOST RECENT statistics showed that they only reported 1,806 deaths in 2005 (the majority in the elderly). IN previous years, it was even less. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
The CDC tells us that 20,000 babies contract congenital rubella each year. Yet, ONE YEAR BEFORE the vaccine came on the market, they only reported 14 cases in 1968 of Congenital Rubella Syndrome. There were even less in previous years. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT??
How about the SV40 Virus? Can you explain why just 6 mo. ago the CDC mentioned nothing of U.S. Citizens receiving this contaminated polio vaccine? Very recently, they changed their story and stated that millions received it. Despite the fact that the virus causes cancer in lab animals, there is no proof yet that it does in humans. I just spoke with a mother whose young child just tested positive for it. How some 50 years later? Why, the cancer causing virus is being transferred genetically of course! So, whether you vaccinate or not, your own future generations will be affected thanks to these lunatics.
Why do doctors not practice informed consent with vaccines? Why do they only tell you about "fussiness" or inflammation at the injection site? Do doctors know that the brain has a separate immune system? Do they know what happens to it during and after vaccination?Why do the majority of doctors not report reactions to VAERS? Why do doctors not read the vaccine literature for each and every vaccine? They don't because two different hospitals almost killed me and my baby last year due to their "lack of knowledge" involving vaccines. I now have hearing damage, my child has vision damage and I won't go into the rest of my living hell either. IT IS ALL VACCINE RELATED!! Why do doctors not inform you of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program?
Why are we told that formaldehyde is toxic in the air, but it is safe to inject it? Remember the FEMA trailers? My infant received AT LEAST 300 MICROGRAMS OF IT WITH THREE VACCINES!
Why is there still mercury in the "mercury free vaccines"? Why are we lied to? Yes, it is still there because there is NO WAY to remove it 100% because it binds with other agents in the manufacturing process! How many trace shots will trigger Autism? An independent lab tested 4 mercury free vials and THEY ALL HAD MERCURY! Why are we now getting many prescription drugs from China (uninspected too). Oh, I forgot our government poisoned China's children with mercury laced vaccines. Prior to 1999, Autism was unheard of there, they began buying U.S. vaccines, and by 2005 they reported 1.8 million cases! Wasn't it in 2006 that they poisoned our pets, children and food?? Hmmm....
Why hasn't there been a study on the vaccinated/unvaccinated yet? Why aren't doctors aware of Japan's recent findings on the vaccine/autism link? Why aren't doctors aware of the recent release of the infant primate study (vaccines/autism)?
Why is there a disclaimer on every vaccine that states the following: Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, and Impairment of Fertility: No studies have been done. They don't know if they cause cancer, alter our DNA,or impair our fertility - YET THEY ARE QUITE SAFE??!! http://us.gsk.com/products/assets/us_infanrix.pdf (page 7 to view ex. of new warning)
I could go on and on....
Please respond. I would like answers.
Dawn Crim
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His response:
Arthur Allen <arthurallenw@aol.com> wrote:
Sorry, but I don't have time to respond to your questions. If you're interested in the research I've done, I suggest your read my book. You can probably check it out of your local library.
Arthur Allen
science writer, www.washingtonindependent.com
author, Vaccine: the Controversial Story of Medicine's Greatest Lifesaver (WW Norton, 2007)
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My response:
Actually, I could care less about your so-called research. My two children and I are all victims of vaccine injuries. That is my proof. Vision damage, hearing damage, brain damage, etc. YES, vaccines do a lot of damage! Just talk to the U.S. Dept of Education - in 2007 they reported 1 in 67 children now have autism in elementary school. DO YOU REALLY THINK PEOPLE ARE THAT STUPID TO BLAME IT ON GENETICS OR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS SOLELY??
FYI - I get my "facts" from the CDC's reported statistics 1 - 5 years BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, along with viewing VAERS, and speaking to thousands of other victims out there.
To hell with you and your lies to the public.
O.k., my blood is still boiling. I'll give everyone a rundown on what has led me to see this dimwit in the first place.
My 20 month old had severe reactions to his 2, 4, and 6 mo. vaccines -all dismissed of course by the on-call nurse after 2 and 4 month rounds. He had high-pitched screaming, congestion, partial seizures, regressed, began showing signs of delays, is now receiving intervention services,etc
At 12 mo. of age he was saying "here kitty, kitty, mama, dada, hi, ba-baba," and other words. He didn't even start babbling though until 10 1/2 months which is definitely a red flag to begin with. Over the past 8 months he has lost all words (we stopped vaccinated at 6 mo. and he didn't receive all of the recommended ones thankfully). He was "cruising" for 7 mo. too which in my opinion is way too long. Now, he is still unsteady on his feet, bumping into things, falling backwards off the couch, losing his balance, etc. After 2 recent illnesses, it worsened - he looked like a little drunk because he would be standing there, slightly turn his head to look at you and just fall to the floor. So, his pediatrician recommended a pediatric neurologist. So, I went today with my Mom. The doctor evaluated him, asked for the history and as soon as I started blaming vaccines he then began talking down to me by saying things like "It doesn't sound like your son had partial seizures. Your son doesn't have Autism and if he did numerous studies have shown there is no connection. However, it is your right to discontinue the vaccines, but your son is at a severe risk of catching these diseases like Measles and such". Then he had the nerve to tell me my son's simply delayed in speech - I felt like screaming he is NOT DELAYED - HE WAS SPEAKING AND IT STOPPED! Explain that you jerk!
So, after he was done I mentioned Ataxia. He told me that my son doesn't appear to have it (o.k. before running any tests?). I said, well just so you know he was exposed to Magnesium Sulfate which can cause low-tone and ATAXIA. He was then given Aluminum Hydroxide in his DTaP which can cause low-tone and ATAXIA. He was also given neomycin which is not recommended if the child has low tone because it can worsen it. I also asked him about ATAXIA being caused by
drugs that have a depressant effect on the Central Nervous System. He is not aware of any in vaccines. I said, "Really? The FDA issued a statement that they were removing a nursing mother's nipple cream that contained phenoxyethanol because it may cause SIDS and depression of the central nervous system. Yet, my son received it in his DTaP vaccine? All goes in vaccines, huh?". I also said, "I don't care what the medical community says, I blame the vaccines and you will never convince me otherwise." I could tell he was really aggravated and wanted to get rid of me by this point. So, he mentioned that he was ordering some bloodwork to check for genetic abnormalities. I said, "So, you aren't going to check for vitamin deficiencies such as E and B12?" "No", he said. What a big fat waste of time going to this idiot.
So, before he left the room I said, "Doctor, let me leave you with 2 last thoughts. You know Bernadine Healy, right? (He actually said NO!). She is the former director of the NIH who gave a recent interview. She came out and said that the children who regressed after their vaccines have NEVER been studied. The recent study that the CDC released only covered 30 something children. So, I hardly call that a study. The medical community is seriously misinformed because the Autism/vaccine connection has NEVER been properly studied to date. Furthermore, ask yourself why these people who catch these diseases are never tested for the strain they are carrying. It is just my opinion doctor, but more than likely it is because the strain would be linked back to the vaccine in current use. So, if I have to
decide between Measles and Cancer - yes, vaccines cause cancer and so much more doctor - I think I will take Measles." He quickly gathered his paperwork and left the room to order the bloodwork while totally tuning me out.
My Mom got into the car and told me that she was so embarrassed. I said, "Mom, don't be. Be angry. They hurt your grandson with these damn vaccines and now they are conspiring to cover it all up". She then sighed and agreed with me. On a good note, I have a friend of a friend who is getting me in to see a DAN doctor for help. My son's immune system is down now and despite what the medical community states - his problems began with drugs and vaccines. Period.
